Its pretty simple in our case. They only allow Somerset to receive state funding for a set number of out of district students. Somerset could still accept the county students but the funding for them would go to the county school. When I was in school this wasn't a problem as there was only 1 county school and it was overcrowded. Once SW opened and increased the capacity of the county system a quota was put in place. Several times over the years the city itself has annexed in more land but in each case the county declined to allow Somerset Schools to annex the students.

 

 

Surely there must be some form of appeals that can be made if a change is desired greatly by the district. However if it is on account of officials currently elected to the school board then the people to be unhappy with are those officials not the other districts who have made the effort to put forth change in their districts.

I am learning that the rules are a bunch of essoteric gobblygoop, and I would like the know what the big advantage private schools enjoy that public schools do not. Personally, I believe there is a huge advantage, but everytime I think I know why, I get informed that there really is no advantage at all. I'm really not sure. I just can't understand why, if we're going to crown a state champion in anything, that the rules should not be EXACTLY the same for everyone. If they are, what's the debate? If they're not, then how can that be? These are high school kids who have to play by rules established by supposed responsible, moral adults. Its a no-brainer. It should be uniform, completely. Where else do you see this kind of disparity? The NCAA has uniform rules, public or private. What's the difference? One big difference is that we are talking children trying to reach a pinnacle that, unbeknownst to them, they have no real possibility of ever reaching. If there are in fact clear advantages for one over the other, we should all be ashamed of ourselves. If there are not, the contratulations to the handful of private schools who predictably dominate the carpet and glory. Personally, I would rather lose as we did tonight. As sad as it may be, its a valuable early lesson in lefe.

I am learning that the rules are a bunch of essoteric gobblygoop, and I would like the know what the big advantage private schools enjoy that public schools do not. Personally, I believe there is a huge advantage, but everytime I think I know why, I get informed that there really is no advantage at all. I'm really not sure. I just can't understand why, if we're going to crown a state champion in anything, that the rules should not be EXACTLY the same for everyone. If they are, what's the debate? If they're not, then how can that be? These are high school kids who have to play by rules established by supposed responsible, moral adults. Its a no-brainer. It should be uniform, completely. Where else do you see this kind of disparity? The NCAA has uniform rules, public or private. What's the difference? One big difference is that we are talking children trying to reach a pinnacle that, unbeknownst to them, they have no real possibility of ever reaching. If there are in fact clear advantages for one over the other, we should all be ashamed of ourselves. If there are not, the contratulations to the handful of private schools who predictably dominate the carpet and glory. Personally, I would rather lose as we did tonight. As sad as it may be, its a valuable early lesson in lefe.

 

The rules regarding athletic competition are the same for everyone. What you are seeing are enrollment differences between districts which can affect athletics although they are not controlled by the KHSAA. For instance in Louisville there is open enrollment, any kid can go to any school in the district they choose. The whole concept of who can go where is NOT the purview of the KHSAA, it is up to the individual school districts to determine what they will and will not do in regards to boundaries and so forth.

 

This is the problem we keep having. Everyone abides by KHSAA rules but not every district's attendance rules are the same. It is not so much the "esoteric gobblygoop" as it is understanding what the rules for athletic competition are who is responsible for those rules. They are two seprate entities essentially. Attendance boundaries and limits are determined by individual school districts, not some overrarching authority in the state of Kentucky.

 

Does that help any?

And what is your school. I went to a public school and had to pay for my own books and supplies. I will use Pburg for instance. If Pburg could go private that would extend their pool of talent. They are many great athletes at Allen Central that would love to play for a good program. They could also feed off from surrounding counties. If that isn't an advantage then i don't know what is.

I am sure it is...but it is not the KHSAA or our fault that YOUR school system hamstrings it's athletes. It is the fault of YOUR school system, no more, no less.

You all keep whining, and we'll go ahead and keep on winning....remember any advantage that we at Trinity have, we earned through pure hard work...We started as nothing, and now have the chance to be the sole owner of the title, "Kentucky's Football Powerhouse"

I predict 3 private school champs.

I agree

Is any tuition assistance offered to football players that come and play? and how is there travel covered if they come in as a freshman? do their parents have to take them? thats why in these larger counties that have only public schools, you goto the school where you are districted. how far apart are CCHS, HHS, and NCC from the major public schools in the area? If someone from Greenup Co. wanted to goto Russell, depending on where they live, it could very well be a 30-45 min drive.

Is any tuition assistance offered to football players that come and play? and how is there travel covered if they come in as a freshman? do their parents have to take them? thats why in these larger counties that have only public schools, you goto the school where you are districted. how far apart are CCHS, HHS, and NCC from the major public schools in the area? If someone from Greenup Co. wanted to goto Russell, depending on where they live, it could very well be a 30-45 min drive.

 

Oh BTW HHS is a public school, so they are very close to one..... NCC is what two/three miles apart....

 

Lets see, NCC, Dayton, Beluve, Highlands, Newport, Holmes, Dixie, Holy Cross, Ludlow, Beechwood, Simon Kenton, Scott, Lloyd, St. Henry, Boone County, Conner, Ryle, Villa, CovLatin oh and NDA....who am I leaving out....are all within a 15 mile radius of each other.... Hard to believe isn't it... And three of them are in the State Football Finals......

Not all schools can adopt the "let em all come" mentality. My alma mater, Conner, doesn't have room for the kids that live in their own district, much less the rest of Boone County, and worse, the rest of NKY.

You all keep whining, and we'll go ahead and keep on winning....remember any advantage that we at Trinity have, we earned through pure hard work...We started as nothing, and now have the chance to be the sole owner of the title, "Kentucky's Football Powerhouse"

Now thats an objective statement! I didn't expect any less. As I said in my original post, you have to be in the other position to understand, or make an effort to step back and look. Be proud of your team! They are awesome. But, no matter what you say, private schools have an advantage.

Is any tuition assistance offered to football players that come and play? and how is there travel covered if they come in as a freshman? do their parents have to take them? thats why in these larger counties that have only public schools, you goto the school where you are districted. how far apart are CCHS, HHS, and NCC from the major public schools in the area? If someone from Greenup Co. wanted to goto Russell, depending on where they live, it could very well be a 30-45 min drive.

At Trinity, financial aid is available to all students. To receive aid, the parents fill out a confidential aid application. All applications are sent to an out of state review agency that has been approved by the KHSAA. No information is included about names, sports participation, other outside activities, grades or anything else other than the financial information. The outside agency puts together a list based on the amount of money available and the need of the individual students. Travel is up to the parents. If someone can tell me how this system in any way favors athletes, I'd like them to explain how.

Its pretty simple in our case. They only allow Somerset to receive state funding for a set number of out of district students. Somerset could still accept the county students but the funding for them would go to the county school. When I was in school this wasn't a problem as there was only 1 county school and it was overcrowded. Once SW opened and increased the capacity of the county system a quota was put in place. Several times over the years the city itself has annexed in more land but in each case the county declined to allow Somerset Schools to annex the students.

There is a key point here. There is nothing to stop any public school system from opening its doors to any and all comers. The tax money might not follow the kids, BUT, you could charge them tuition. That would put your school on an equal footing with the private schools.

Its pretty simple in our case. They only allow Somerset to receive state funding for a set number of out of district students. Somerset could still accept the county students but the funding for them would go to the county school. When I was in school this wasn't a problem as there was only 1 county school and it was overcrowded. Once SW opened and increased the capacity of the county system a quota was put in place. Several times over the years the city itself has annexed in more land but in each case the county declined to allow Somerset Schools to annex the students.

None of the public funding follows students to a private school.

At Trinity, financial aid is available to all students. To receive aid, the parents fill out a confidential aid application. All applications are sent to an out of state review agency that has been approved by the KHSAA. No information is included about names, sports participation, other outside activities, grades or anything else other than the financial information. The outside agency puts together a list based on the amount of money available and the need of the individual students. Travel is up to the parents. If someone can tell me how this system in any way favors athletes, I'd like them to explain how.

This has been stated over and over in this forum .You might as well be talking to a brick wall or a teenager . People will only believe what they want to as long as it fits into their own personal agendas . It doesn't favor athletes over non playing students .

4A - Public (Ryle) vs. Private (Trinity)

3A - Public (BG) vs. Private (Cov. Cath)

2A - Public (Russell) vs. Public (Mercer)

1A - Public (Danville) vs. Private (New Cath.)

 

At least one public school will win. You can also bet the KHSAA will be rooting hard for the other three publics so the football world will get off their backs.

 

Just stiring the pot a little.

 

Gag me. So when another public school wins the state basketball title, we can whine and cry and say that they should let privates recruit to level the field???? Can't have your cake and eat it to.