Thanks DD, and not only inner city.

 

How far away from a commercial airport or an interstate is Hazard, or Manchester or Pikeville, or Middlesboro. I know Middlesboro is an hour from I75 in Corbin and an hour to I64 in Knoxville. Knoxville also has the closest municipal airport which is about an hour and half drive.

 

What about Casey County. How far away are they from an interstate?

 

Does anyone realize that there are still homes in Eastern Kentucky and elsewhere I am sure that do not have running water (municipalities can't run pipes up the hollers) and have straight pipes for sewage? Tell me that GE and its stockholders don't benefit more from the taxes paid to the government!! Baloney.

 

"GE and its stockholders don't benefit more from the taxes paid to the government." And I like bologna.

 

Have nots will always howl at the moon against the haves, so these types of rationalizations never really bother me. I had nothing and built a law practice from scratch. So can someone (and in fact, I know someone who did) from Casey County. However, I can guarantee you that if Uncle Sam took less of my self-employment dollars, I would feel more charitable about giving even more of those same dollars to the United Way, Salvation Army, the poorbox at church, etc. I guarantee you that I will be better at redistributing my wealth, and my fellow man will benefit more, when it is left to me to be done of my own volition, then the government is forcibly taking it from me..

"GE and its stockholders don't benefit more from the taxes paid to the government." And I like bologna.

 

Have nots will always howl at the moon against the haves, so these types of rationalizations never really bother me. I had nothing and built a law practice from scratch. So can someone (and in fact, I know someone who did) from Casey County. However, I can guarantee you that if Uncle Sam took less of my self-employment dollars, I would feel more charitable about giving even more of those same dollars to the United Way, Salvation Army, the poorbox at church, etc. I guarantee you that I will be better at redistributing my wealth, and my fellow man will benefit more, when it is left to me to be done of my own volition, then the government is forcibly taking it from me..

 

How about Horse Hockey!!!

 

Again, GE benefits from favorable trade policies and tariffs. They benefit from Municipal Airports and Safe Interstates much more than the poor. They even benefit more from Social Security.

 

Even over a lifetime how much money do you think someone on welfare gets from the government? Is it possible that it is even less than one year's worth of corporate welfare to one company.

 

I didn't say someone from Casey county couldn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps, even though there are some that can't. What I said is that there are some kids living there who will never get on an interstate or use an airport.

 

I do not believe for an instance that you had "nothing." At the very least I will bet that you had at least one strong guardian who pushed you and taught you the benefit of good education. There are many who never get that and they have no chance of pulling themselves up. Spend a year getting to know a high school of impovershed kids in rural Kentucky and come back and tell me what awesome opportunities they have.

 

BTW how many years did it take you to get through college? If you paid all of that out of YOUR pocket and got no assistance from anywhere, I would assume that it was at least 6 or 7 years given the cost of an education today and on top of that law school.

 

I know in my two years of graduate school it cost me $23,000.00 (Thank God for GOVERNMENT supported student loan programs.)

You don't have to drive on an interstate highway to reap their benefits. I would be willing to bet that whereever you live, the food at the local grocery store arrived via a truck that used an interstate highway. The company that produced the food, the trucking company that shipped the food, and the grocery store that sold the food benefited from the interstate highway system as did the employees of the food producer, the trucking company, and the grocery store, not to mention the people that bought the food at the grocery store.

I don't know about those people in the holler, but I hope GE is making out like a bandit. My 401k could use some help.:banana:

You don't have to drive on an interstate highway to reap their benefits. I would be willing to bet that whereever you live, the food at the local grocery store arrived via a truck that used an interstate highway. The company that produced the food, the trucking company that shipped the food, and the grocery store that sold the food benefited from the interstate highway system as did the employees of the food producer, the trucking company, and the grocery store, not to mention the people that bought the food at the grocery store.

 

Excellent post! :thumb:

Excellent post! :thumb:

 

 

The discussion is not about whether or not people receive benefits the discussion stems from the post by Hearsay that says the wealthy get no return on their taxes. They get more return on their taxes than the poor.

 

Somebody tell me how a family of four bringing in 518.00 month in welfare is living more off the government than the people who got bailed out in the S and L scandal? Corporate welfare estimates are in the hundreds of billions while personal welfare to families (AFDC and WIC or Food Stamps) is 1% of state and Federal budgets.

I often hear the statistic trotted out, "The wealthiest 1 percent pay (fill in the blank) percent of the taxes."

 

What percent do the wealthiest 1 percent earn? Is there a way to find out?

The discussion is not about whether or not people receive benefits the discussion stems from the post by Hearsay that says the wealthy get no return on their taxes . They get more return on their taxes than the poor.

That is not what Hearsay said. He said that the wealthy get less return on their taxes than other people. How could they possibly get more return?

They can't but don't try explaining it. Some people just can't follow the logic.

They can't but don't try explaining it. Some people just can't follow the logic.

New Math.

You don't have to drive on an interstate highway to reap their benefits. I would be willing to bet that whereever you live, the food at the local grocery store arrived via a truck that used an interstate highway. The company that produced the food, the trucking company that shipped the food, and the grocery store that sold the food benefited from the interstate highway system as did the employees of the food producer, the trucking company, and the grocery store, not to mention the people that bought the food at the grocery store.

 

Actually, the food and transportation companies that service that area, and their stockholders bennefit more then the indivudal would.

Actually, the food and transportation companies that service that area, and their stockholders bennefit more then the indivudal would.

Please explain this to me in detail. Then explain how the individual gets the food if the stockholders pull out of the transportation and food services.

That is not what Hearsay said. He said that the wealthy get less return on their taxes than other people. How could they possibly get more return?

If four guys go out and buy a brand new car, and are required to share its usage equally. One guy pays $20,000, another pays $10,000, another $2,500, and the last pays $1,000, but gets the $500 rebate. In terms of straight "return-on-investment" the guy paying $500 for equal use of the car gets the best deal by far.

 

This is a very watered down example of taxpayer's usage of infrastructure and services.

 

I don't see what's so hard to grasp here, or why providing tax breaks to everyone paying taxes is a problem. :confused:

Please explain this to me in detail. Then explain how the individual gets the food if the stockholders pull out of the transportation and food services.

 

Obviously it's a profitable market or the food companies would not market there. And if I am selling food to 5000 people a week who spend say 200. for a family of 4 I am grossing 1,000,000.00 a week, or 200,000.00 in net profits.

 

Probably a little more bennefit then the priveledge of driving my car down a paved road.

Trucking companies pay huge highway usage taxes for each truck annually.

 

Not to mention a significant portion of every gallon of diesel fuel in taxes.