August 11, 20188 yr Zach is going to have trouble explaining the”I know” response text when his wife said he pinned her to the wall. Who would he have to explain it to?
August 11, 20188 yr Who would he have to explain it to? Quite possibly the best post to come out of all of this.
August 11, 20188 yr Here we go... We have a few people who want Meyer fired at all cost. Regardless of credible evidence or police investigations. We have others who are just trying to determine facts.
August 11, 20188 yr Author Agreed. Choking is an act of aggression, not self defense. If Zach Smith choked his wife, IMO he is guilty of abuse. I agree as well. Because I agree is also why I’m so perplexed as to why her mom has come out and basically agreed with Zach’s side of the story.
August 11, 20188 yr Author BM has edited his story multiple times now on FB, not once did he cite an edit which is journalism 101. Several times he’s edited his story after Snook released articles on his Facebook. Why would Snook release a post now that is false when it appears his other posts were verified?
August 11, 20188 yr Several times he’s edited his story after Snook released articles on his Facebook. Why would Snook release a post now that is false when it appears his other posts were verified? 3 edits with no corrections, McMurphy that is, although, the NY times has been issuing corrections on page A2 for 50 years before moving it to another page. Do we have any professional journalist on here who can share opinions on a “journalist” editing his story without noting corrections?
August 11, 20188 yr Author 3 edits with no corrections, McMurphy that is, although, the NY times has been issuing corrections on page A2 for 50 years before moving it to another page. Do we have any professional journalist on here who can share opinions on a “journalist” editing his story without noting corrections? Everyone’s a professional journalist in 2018 JA.
August 11, 20188 yr Where is the proof? Her mom is on record saying “she told me she was going to take down Smith and Urban Meyer.” According to ColonelPops post there are text from the mom detailing the abuse. My question is, if the mom has proof of the abuse in text, then why would she be exonerating the abuser and siding against her daughter...something doesn't add up.
August 11, 20188 yr We have a few people who want Meyer fired at all cost. Regardless of credible evidence or police investigations. We have others who are just trying to determine facts. It’s quite obvious he isn’t being fired. I can only speak for myself, but I don’t WANT Meyer fired, literally has no bearing on me or the team I support whatsoever. I don’t hate OSU, because again, no reason to. What I do want is you to acknowledge your stance on other coaches and how it’s 180 degrees different with Urban, that’s all.
August 11, 20188 yr According to ColonelPops post there are text from the mom detailing the abuse. My question is, if the mom has proof of the abuse in text, then why would she be exonerating the abuser and siding against her daughter...something doesn't add up. I agree 110%, this whole thing stinks. I default to the police department investigating and never charging. That’s how it works in this country.
August 11, 20188 yr Where is the proof? Her mom is on record saying “she told me she was going to take down Smith and Urban Meyer.” Of course that's not proof either but who would blame her if she were abused by Smith who was enabled by Meyer.
August 11, 20188 yr It’s quite obvious he isn’t being fired. I can only speak for myself, but I don’t WANT Meyer fired, literally has no bearing on me or the team I support whatsoever. I don’t hate OSU, because again, no reason to. What I do want is you to acknowledge your stance on other coaches and how it’s 180 degrees different with Urban, that’s all. No disrespect but I don’t believe that. Also, I’ve only been after facts from the beginning of the Meyer saga. If you’re referencing how I treated the now fired UL coaches for their transgressions? Sure, I was cynical about them, I openly admit that.
August 11, 20188 yr I agree 110%, this whole thing stinks. I default to the police department investigating and never charging. That’s how it works in this country. That is a convenient position, one that I may even take if this was my favorite team or coach. That said, There are people all over this country that get away with crimes for various reasons...yes, even when the police know about it. I've been around Law Enforcement most of my life and I can't count the number of times I've heard a police officer or detective say they know who did a crime but couldn't charge them because no one would testify, there wasn't enough evidence for a conviction or they were flat out told to stand down by superiors...unfortunately it also works that way in this country. I don't know if Smith beat his wife, but the arrest in 2009 and his text where he admitted it are pretty convincing.
August 11, 20188 yr That is a convenient position, one that I may even take if this was my favorite team or coach. That said, There are people all over this country that get away with crimes for various reasons...yes, even when the police know about it. I've been around Law Enforcement most of my life and I can't count the number of times I've heard a police officer or detective say they know who did a crime but couldn't charge them because no one would testify, there wasn't enough evidence for a conviction or they were flat out told to stand down by superiors...unfortunately it also works that way in this country. I don't know if Smith beat his wife, but the arrest in 2009 and his text where he admitted it are pretty convincing. It’s a slippery slope basing info off text or screenshots. Which one of her phones was this from? Did her carrier corroborate it? Why is her now estranged mom, backing ZS in some instances? The rules of evidence have developed over the last 800 years, if we’re gonna take someone’s job, reputation, freedom, not just ZS, anyone, shouldn’t it be corroborated?
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