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Johnson Central vs. Ashland part 2

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Oldrambler , you can talk till your blue in the face to westsider. If Raceland was to have beaten Trinity you still would not get any respect. Some way or another he would try to come up with some logic that Raceland was still unworthy of any ranking. He seems to really get off on this stuff. Now you know it feels to be "westsided". As I said in a thread the other day, the best thing for anyone to do is to completely ignore anything that he posts, because it will be 100% negative against anything and anybody that lie east of I-75. Want to bet that he has not seen Raceland play this year, or bet that he at no time in his life ever seen Raceland play period? I would almost guarantee that he has never, ever at one point seen Johnson Central play at any sport as well. Yet he is still the all knowing expert. Some you guys need to learn the mentality that you are dealing with, in respect to how he feels about us eastern folk and his superiority complex concerning our knowledge of anything, and just plain ignore him and go on.

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This is your last warning about keeping the thread on topic, which is JC vs. Ashland.

 

Raceland is not the topic of this thread..

What I find funny about this thread is that we have yet to see one Ashland poster. But we have Raceland fans on here posting against for a Ashland blowout, I guess it makes you feel inferior with your win over Ashland. Ashland is the best team on JC's schedule, no one on here doubts that. Ashland is a good overall ball club, no one doubts that. But anyone who was at that game last Friday night when they played LC and then comparing that to how JC played LC knows that JC is the better team. JC knows what is on the line here. We dont need anymore fuel to add to the fire. I for one hope the classy ppl of Ashland bring their Wide Right T-shirts. Thinking about this game gets me fired up and wishing that we could play tonight. I can just imagine how these young men feel. This game has all the makings of a great rivalry and a head knocking battle. Both teams will rise to the occassion this game knowing what all is on the line, will play its best game of the year to date. Ashland does in my opinion have some edges in this game, such as the kicking game, and possibly a better core of recievers, but still yet I believe JC will win this game and by a 2-3 TD margin and heres why:

 

1.) This game is at JC. We are expecting a crowd bigger than last years Apple Bowl which had app. 8,000 in attendance. Ashland always has a good following but I believe that JC's fans will rise to the occassion this game and give our boys that extra home field advantage.

 

2.) In the trenches JC seems to be the more physically dominating and quicker team. Ashland has a bigger O-line but I look for the speed on the D-line of JC to cause problems for the blocking assignments. In the game against LC, Ashlands D-line was blown off the ball many times which allowed for good gains on the ground, which leads me to believe that the O-line of JC should have its fair share of success as well.

 

3.) The last key of the game for me is the depth of running backs and quarterbacks of JC should make it hard for Ashland to key on specific players. JC has used 6 or 7 backs routinely throughout the season and should continue that into this game. Ashland will probably see some things that they havent seen out of JC this year in this game, a more previlant passing attack and a healthy backfield, which until the Greenup Co. game, never had all of its starters on the field at the same time.[/quote

Do you have any stats on the JC kicking game?

What I find funny about this thread is that we have yet to see one Ashland poster. But we have Raceland fans on here posting against for a Ashland blowout, I guess it makes you feel inferior with your win over Ashland. Ashland is the best team on JC's schedule, no one on here doubts that. Ashland is a good overall ball club, no one doubts that. But anyone who was at that game last Friday night when they played LC and then comparing that to how JC played LC knows that JC is the better team. JC knows what is on the line here. We dont need anymore fuel to add to the fire. I for one hope the classy ppl of Ashland bring their Wide Right T-shirts. Thinking about this game gets me fired up and wishing that we could play tonight. I can just imagine how these young men feel. This game has all the makings of a great rivalry and a head knocking battle. Both teams will rise to the occassion this game knowing what all is on the line, will play its best game of the year to date. Ashland does in my opinion have some edges in this game, such as the kicking game, and possibly a better core of recievers, but still yet I believe JC will win this game and by a 2-3 TD margin and heres why:

 

1.) This game is at JC. We are expecting a crowd bigger than last years Apple Bowl which had app. 8,000 in attendance. Ashland always has a good following but I believe that JC's fans will rise to the occassion this game and give our boys that extra home field advantage.

 

2.) In the trenches JC seems to be the more physically dominating and quicker team. Ashland has a bigger O-line but I look for the speed on the D-line of JC to cause problems for the blocking assignments. In the game against LC, Ashlands D-line was blown off the ball many times which allowed for good gains on the ground, which leads me to believe that the O-line of JC should have its fair share of success as well.

 

3.) The last key of the game for me is the depth of running backs and quarterbacks of JC should make it hard for Ashland to key on specific players. JC has used 6 or 7 backs routinely throughout the season and should continue that into this game. Ashland will probably see some things that they havent seen out of JC this year in this game, a more previlant passing attack and a healthy backfield, which until the Greenup Co. game, never had all of its starters on the field at the same time.

Do you have any stats on the JC kicking game?

 

I dont believe that JC has kicked a field goal this year but I could be mistaken. I remember JC tried a field goal off over 40 yds earlier this year but it was blocked. JC's kicker James Barrett does a very nice job on XP and has a solid leg from 35 yds in. The biggest improvement in the kicking game is Barretts ability to pin the ball deep on kickoffs. Most of the time his kicks have good hang time and usually land around the 10 yd line. Freeman for Ashland does a great job on his field goals and PAT. I think he has hit 30 PAT's in a row. The kid that kicked off for Ashland though doesnt pin the ball real deep and often kicks it low. But overall as I said, I give the kicking edge to Ashland.

Does anyone think that Ashland will be able to slow down JC's run game?

I dont believe that JC has kicked a field goal this year but I could be mistaken. I remember JC tried a field goal off over 40 yds earlier this year but it was blocked. JC's kicker James Barrett does a very nice job on XP and has a solid leg from 35 yds in. The biggest improvement in the kicking game is Barretts ability to pin the ball deep on kickoffs. Most of the time his kicks have good hang time and usually land around the 10 yd line. Freeman for Ashland does a great job on his field goals and PAT. I think he has hit 30 PAT's in a row. The kid that kicked off for Ashland though doesnt pin the ball real deep and often kicks it low. But overall as I said, I give the kicking edge to Ashland.

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I dont believe that JC has kicked a field goal this year but I could be mistaken. I remember JC tried a field goal off over 40 yds earlier this year but it was blocked. JC's kicker James Barrett does a very nice job on XP and has a solid leg from 35 yds in. The biggest improvement in the kicking game is Barretts ability to pin the ball deep on kickoffs. Most of the time his kicks have good hang time and usually land around the 10 yd line. Freeman for Ashland does a great job on his field goals and PAT. I think he has hit 30 PAT's in a row. The kid that kicked off for Ashland though doesnt pin the ball real deep and often kicks it low. But overall as I said, I give the kicking edge to Ashland.

Seems as if Barrett was kicking much better in the first few games of the season as far as depth of his kicks and his PAT accuracy. I think that both aspects suffered while he was playing soccer similtaneously with football. He is nowhere nearly as deep or accurate as he was early.

Does anyone think that Ashland will be able to slow down JC's run game?

 

Although the defensive line looked somewhat skeptical against the running game of LC, Ashland has 2 very solid Linebackers in Cordle and Davis. The move well and do a good job of finding the ball. LC had some success running the ball up the middle, breaking two long runs for TD but one was called back. LC didnt have the speed to push it outside so its hard to say how well JC can do on that aspect. The defensive backs of Ashland are in my opinion there strong point on defense. They are big and fast and break on the ball well and all do a nice job of breaking down and making the open field tackle.

 

With all that said, I believe that JC can use its running game just as it has had all year and have good success with it. Depending on the QB in at the time, you will see different types of play calling. If Ratliff is in, probably just your basic inside and outside runs. If Welch or Dillon, maybe a little option attack or draw plays. JC will utilize all of its assets this game and will make it hard on Ashland to find tendecy's in play calling.

Although the defensive line looked somewhat skeptical against the running game of LC, Ashland has 2 very solid Linebackers in Cordle and Davis. The move well and do a good job of finding the ball. LC had some success running the ball up the middle, breaking two long runs for TD but one was called back. LC didnt have the speed to push it outside so its hard to say how well JC can do on that aspect. The defensive backs of Ashland are in my opinion there strong point on defense. They are big and fast and break on the ball well and all do a nice job of breaking down and making the open field tackle.

 

With all that said, I believe that JC can use its running game just as it has had all year and have good success with it. Depending on the QB in at the time, you will see different types of play calling. If Ratliff is in, probably just your basic inside and outside runs. If Welch or Dillon, maybe a little option attack or draw plays. JC will utilize all of its assets this game and will make it hard on Ashland to find tendecy's in play calling.

I agree with you JC Alumni :thumb:... In watching the JC games this year I have been really impressed with the way Welch runs the ball. If you stick him at the QB position a couple of times a game and run the option that becomes a tough play to stop. But for the most part I think that Ashland will have their hands full with Grimm and JC will be pretty succesful on the ground.

Although the defensive line looked somewhat skeptical against the running game of LC, Ashland has 2 very solid Linebackers in Cordle and Davis. The move well and do a good job of finding the ball. LC had some success running the ball up the middle, breaking two long runs for TD but one was called back. LC didnt have the speed to push it outside so its hard to say how well JC can do on that aspect. The defensive backs of Ashland are in my opinion there strong point on defense. They are big and fast and break on the ball well and all do a nice job of breaking down and making the open field tackle.

 

With all that said, I believe that JC can use its running game just as it has had all year and have good success with it. Depending on the QB in at the time, you will see different types of play calling. If Ratliff is in, probably just your basic inside and outside runs. If Welch or Dillon, maybe a little option attack or draw plays. JC will utilize all of its assets this game and will make it hard on Ashland to find tendecy's in play calling.

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JC has done pretty good this year on limiting their "stupid" penalities... (face mask, delay of game, false start, offsides, illeagal procedure.) JC has to do the same this week.

 

JC has to protect the ball. They cant fumble or throw interceptions. Every time JC has the ball, they must get points on the scoreboard.

 

If JC can do these things, JC will win this game.

JC has done pretty good this year on limiting their "stupid" penalities... (face mask, delay of game, false start, offsides, illeagal procedure.) JC has to do the same this week.

 

JC has to protect the ball. They cant fumble or throw interceptions. Every time JC has the ball, they must get points on the scoreboard.

 

If JC can do these things, JC will win this game.

 

I dont think that we need points on the board everytime although it would be nice. Ashland does have a nice defense so for us to believe that we will score at will is arrogant. The great thing is that we have a good enough defense that can keep us in it even if our offense is alittle sluggish early on. I would love to see this game in hand early BUT I dont see that happening. I count on a good close game that may go down to the wire and have nearly 8,000 ppl in attendance tighting those buttocks muscles up.:lol:

I dont think that we need points on the board everytime although it would be nice. Ashland does have a nice defense so for us to believe that we will score at will is arrogant. The great thing is that we have a good enough defense that can keep us in it even if our offense is alittle sluggish early on. I would love to see this game in hand early BUT I dont see that happening. I count on a good close game that may go down to the wire and have nearly 8,000 ppl in attendance tighting those buttocks muscles up.:lol:

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C'mon now, my earlier prediction is in trouble....let's get this thread going. Where's all the juicy debating and finger pointing?:D

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