TAC Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Don’t see Borchers being interested in this one. Alumni yes but this would be a step backwards probably with the pay, going from 6A to potentially 1A, and additionally he’s also the AD at Cooper. Finally, with the growth in Union booming Cooper will end up being one of the biggest schools in the state in the next 3 years which potentially means additional talent headed his way. The pay? You don’t coach football at NCC for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAP Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It all starts and ends with the head coach. Dan is great guy and has been around for a long time but that doesn't mean he gets a pass. The last few years his teams had no discipline, had to many personal fouls without any repercussions and that's a problem. So regardless whether he was forced out or not that shouldn't matter there needed to be a change at the head coaching position IMO. Who ever is the new head coach it will be up to him who is on his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAP Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Has NCC started the hiring process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I talked to someone today that claims intimate knowledge of the situation and that person said the main issues were offensive dysfunction and lack of leadership/action from Coach Wagner dealing with that dysfunction. Additionally according to this source, there are too many people on the current NCC Staff that are "related to someone" which further exacerbates the dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAP Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I talked to someone today that claims intimate knowledge of the situation and that person said the main issues were offensive dysfunction and lack of leadership/action from Coach Wagner dealing with that dysfunction. Additionally according to this source, there are too many people on the current NCC Staff that are "related to someone" which further exacerbates the dysfunction. Not disagreeing with you but the dysfunction has nothing to do with who was related to who. Once again it doesn't matter who is on the staff the head coach has to take control and that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguru Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Not disagreeing with you but the dysfunction has nothing to do with who was related to who. Once again it doesn't matter who is on the staff the head coach has to take control and that didn't happen. We can agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAP Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 We can agree to disagree. That we can but I do have sources that are very close to the program. Head coached pick the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankdracman23 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I talked to someone today that claims intimate knowledge of the situation and that person said the main issues were offensive dysfunction and lack of leadership/action from Coach Wagner dealing with that dysfunction. Additionally according to this source, there are too many people on the current NCC Staff that are "related to someone" which further exacerbates the dysfunction. Go back to the Schneider and Eviston State Champ teams and you will find just as many coaches "related to someone". There is not a tree trunk full of "non-related to someone" assistant coaches just wanting to put all that time in for no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawildcat Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The whole damn hill is related to each other! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentuckyJoe Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Go back to the Schneider and Eviston State Champ teams and you will find just as many coaches "related to someone". There is not a tree trunk full of "non-related to someone" assistant coaches just wanting to put all that time in for no money. False. Some with Eddie VERY few with Bob. It's great when people want to help but has to be the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 False. Some with Eddie VERY few with Bob. It's great when people want to help but has to be the right people. I don’t remember relatives coaching when I was there. We had coaches from outside of the NewCath family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankdracman23 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I don’t remember relatives coaching when I was there. We had coaches from outside of the NewCath family. I said go back to State Champ teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I said go back to State Champ teams. Reading comprehension. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankdracman23 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Reading comprehension. My bad Point is no one complains when Assistant Coaches on State Champ teams have sons, brothers, nephews, cousins on those State Champ teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t horns Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Don’t see Borchers being interested in this one. Alumni yes but this would be a step backwards probably with the pay, going from 6A to potentially 1A, and additionally he’s also the AD at Cooper. Finally, with the growth in Union booming Cooper will end up being one of the biggest schools in the state in the next 3 years which potentially means additional talent headed his way. Borchers will be a Principal within 3 years ending his coaching career, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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