I loved hearing stories of some veteran coaches that would find a way to edit into their trade film some "adult" scenes about the middle of the 1st quarter...

 

The opposing coaches would go back home to break the film down after trading the VHS tape on Saturday morning... After getting an idea of what their opponent was about... BAM... about 5 seconds of R-rated to NC-17 material.... then back to football...

 

They said they really had to be careful when trying to show film to their team that week.

"Coach, can I take the tape home and watch?"

"uh...no.. Not this week."

I cant believe the rule is the film has to be ready by 8 am the next day (if electronically swapping). Sometimes you don't get home until 1 am!

You trade film because its the sportsmanship thing to do. This is high school football. Most of our teams are practicing on a field with the track team running around the field, soccer teams using the other half, or the practice field right up next to the road where everyone can see practice. We can't keep anything a secret anyway.

 

Also, coaching is a fraternity. You trade film with someone because you want to have a positive relationship with other coaches. You never know, you may need that coach to share some film with you later on down the road. If you don't share, then I'm willing to bet they aren't helping you out when you need it.

Friendly warning to everyone, please keep this thread on track.

I cant believe the rule is the film has to be ready by 8 am the next day (if electronically swapping). Sometimes you don't get home until 1 am!

I upload the video for Fern Creek. I take the memory sticks out of each camera, take them home and upload. It takes about 45 min to an hour for each angle. I do the Sideline first then Pressbox. As soon as Sideline is done uploading you can exchange it with Hudl. We’ve had school start the trade as early as 10:30 pm on a Friday night. Fern Creek doesn’t have WiFi at the football field house so I upload at home.

The exchange process is simple and can be done from the Hudl app on a smart phone.

But most schools don't play every game, home and away within about a 30 min drive from home. My point was the coach that gets on the bus at about 11pm for a 1.5 or 2 hr trip home when you include a stop to get the kids a bite to eat. He probably isn't getting back home till 1:30 and he's got to start messing with getting the film ready by 8:00.

I've known schools to use two filmers. One shot at an angle so wide that the tops of the lights on the other side of the field were visible. Another long-time WKY coach used to edit out all kicking plays. The rule doesn't say the film has to be Spielberg quality.

 

I know a coach who traded enough film over a five year period that he could get any game film of a playoff opponent he wanted just as a "reward" for being a coach who trades film.

 

I remember Bellevue's coach refused to trade film with Fort Campbell's Marshall Patterson ahead of the 1976 state championship game. That didn't sit well with Patterson, whose Falcons won 22-0.

If you don’t trade then others will.

 

Personally I find it kind of comical that football coaches don’t just trade all of their games up to meeting up in their respective game.

 

They get them regardless from others if you don’t.

I've known schools to use two filmers. One shot at an angle so wide that the tops of the lights on the other side of the field were visible. Another long-time WKY coach used to edit out all kicking plays. The rule doesn't say the film has to be Spielberg quality.

 

I know a coach who traded enough film over a five year period that he could get any game film of a playoff opponent he wanted just as a "reward" for being a coach who trades film.

 

I remember Bellevue's coach refused to trade film with Fort Campbell's Marshall Patterson ahead of the 1976 state championship game. That didn't sit well with Patterson, whose Falcons won 22-0.

 

You have to love our tax dollars at work!

 

This thread exposes some of high school football's dirty underbelly.

You trade film because you are getting the film back in return from the other school. Most places, I can speak for ours have small enough staff that we don't have the people to send out coaches to scout others. If we have someone interested in coaching they are on the sideline. Most schools don't have the resources to send out scout crews.

I recall as a student trainer for a nky team in the mid 80s getting sent to meet to another nky team under the bridge by Newport stadium. It was playoff time and they had film from a team down state that we were facing the next game and we had film for the team they were facing. Don't recall the other team but it was dark and for a kid from the suburbs it seemed like a clandestine operation.

I cant believe the rule is the film has to be ready by 8 am the next day (if electronically swapping). Sometimes you don't get home until 1 am!

 

The film doesn't have to be of your most recent game. A lot of times, teams get their opponents film well in advance. And even if it was, if you record with a connected device (like an Ipad), the film can be loaded directly to HUDL.

Yes I thought so. Here is the language from the KHSAA competition rules for football...

 

LINK: Football Competition Rules

 

H) Videotaping Standard and Procedures and Video Exchange Policy:1) All Visiting teams will be given the same area to record from asthe home team.2) All exchange video should be recorded digitally with a digitalCamera.3) All exchange video should be recorded in DVD format or Online4) All exchange video shall be recorded using a Tripod.5) All exchange video shall be recorded from the highest possiblepoint in the stadium6) All exchange video shall be recorded so that the teams numbersare visible7) All exchange video shall be recorded from the huddle to z fewseconds past the end of the play (5-10 seconds).8) If the team is a no huddle team, the video shall begin recordingbefore any shifts or motions and continue past the end of theplay (5-10 seconds).9) If there is a penalty, the video shall continue to record until thepenalty has been enforced.10) All exchange video shall be recorded from the deepestoffensive back to the safety to begin the play, then zooming incloser to the play in order to see the numbers on the players asthe play progresses.11) On all Punts and Punt returns, the video should NOT followthe ball. The video should begin with a wide view showing boththe punt and punt return teams, and then zoom in to the returnteam after the ball is punted and received.12) On all Kickoffs and Kick Returns, the video should NOT followthe ball. The video should begin with a wide view of both thekickoff and return teams and then zoom in to the return teamafter the returner has received the ball. 13) The video shall show the down and distance with a short shotof the downs marker between plays.14) The video shall show the scoreboard after every score, at eachtimeout, and between quarters.15) All teams shall make available at least 2 tapes to exchange(choice made by the opponent)16) All teams shall exchange an updated roster, clearly indicatingoffensive and defensive starters.17) All Video shall be available by 8 am on the day followingthe game if online exchange is utilized, or by noon on the dayfollowing the game if there is a physical exchange of video.

 

The film doesn't have to be of your most recent game. A lot of times, teams get their opponents film well in advance. And even if it was, if you record with a connected device (like an Ipad), the film can be loaded directly to HUDL.

 

According to what Watusi found, it's whatever game(s) the opponent desires. So, you can't just send them some game and say you've lived up to the rules. At least that's the way I'm reading it.

According to what Watusi found, it's whatever game(s) the opponent desires. So, you can't just send them some game and say you've lived up to the rules. At least that's the way I'm reading it.

 

Correct.