That same person was dumb enough to give the Raiders draft away to the Bengals for Palmer too... lol!

 

Worked out great for Hue... got fired and ended up back in Cincy...

 

To be fair Hue had one season ended 8 and 8. He got fired because Davis died, they then hired a new GM who wanted to bring his own coach in.

To be fair Hue had one season ended 8 and 8. He got fired because Davis died, they then hired a new GM who wanted to bring his own coach in.

 

Fair point... it was still a bad deal for the Raiders...

Fair point... it was still a bad deal for the Raiders...

 

No doubt. Which Mike Brown should get credit for. He has been hard headed in both cases and both cases he got deals that were better than most thought they could get. He got the Browns to give up more than what the Pats got for Jimmy G. Well he would have if the Browns didn't party to soon.

Apparently, Mccarron not as liked around the country as some people like him. A lot of talk of the Browns dodging a bullet, AJ is garbage, low ceiling , etc. Maybe they don't realize he has the "it" factor. Though I think AJ dodged a bullet.

 

I wish this trade would have gone through. AJ deserves the chance to show what he can do.

 

Tim Tebow had the "it" factor. So did Manziel. As a neutral fan of both teams, had this trade gone through, the Bengals would have absolutely greased the Browns. AJ is just a younger version of Josh McCown IMO.

Would have loved to have seen the Bengals D eat McCarron's lunch in late November.

Saw a tweet from someone saying that after agreeing to the trade the Browns sent signed paperwork to the Bengals who then in turn sent the wrong paperwork to the league, thus missing the deadline. No idea how true that is.

Saw a tweet from someone saying that after agreeing to the trade the Browns sent signed paperwork to the Bengals who then in turn sent the wrong paperwork to the league, thus missing the deadline. No idea how true that is.

 

Ian Rapoport basically said the same thing on Pardon My Take this morning.

Sounds like a very “Bengals and Browns”thing to do. So incompetent that even together they can’t pull off the simple paperwork for a deal?? Sad but true.

The Browns are still taking the heat for this one.

 

Browns’ McCarron excuse doesn’t mesh with NFL procedures – ProFootballTalk

 

 

Reeling from the most public yet of their many humiliations, the Browns have blamed the failed trade for quarterback A.J. McCarron on the bunglings of the Bengals, telling Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the Bengals failed to send to the league the trade document signed by both teams, after the Browns had sent the signed paperwork to Cincinnati.

 

 

There’s one small problem with that excuse. That’s not how trades are communicated to the league. And every key member of every front office knows, or should know, the proper procedure.

 

Per multiple league sources, a trade becomes official only when both teams independently communicate the trade to the league office. It definitely doesn’t happen as the Browns claim they tried to do it, with chain of communication involving one team sending a form to the other team, which then signs the form and sends it to the league.

 

And so here are the potential explanations for what’s going on. One, the Browns are lying about what happened to cover up their incompetence. Two, the Browns are telling the truth and are genuinely incompetent. Three, the Browns deliberately sent the paperwork to the Bengals and not to the league office in order to keep the trade from happening, with a premeditated “did I do that?” already in place.

 

Whatever the explanation, the Browns have yet again provided anyone who is paying attention a tangible example of the kind of dysfunction that, in an age of unprecedented parity, has resulted in the team winning one out of 24 games.

It's really a shame that this trade didn't go through. No way the Bengals get a 2nd and a 3rd when they trade him this offseason. Those two picks could have been huge.

It's really a shame that this trade didn't go through. No way the Bengals get a 2nd and a 3rd when they trade him this offseason. Those two picks could have been huge.

 

Well first they may not get a chance to trade him, because he may be an unrestricted free agent. Second if they did still have him, why couldn't they get that same deal from the Browns? If the Browns truly were wanting to make that deal, then how would waiting a few months change that?

The Browns are still taking the heat for this one.

 

Browns’ McCarron excuse doesn’t mesh with NFL procedures – ProFootballTalk

 

 

Reeling from the most public yet of their many humiliations, the Browns have blamed the failed trade for quarterback A.J. McCarron on the bunglings of the Bengals, telling Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the Bengals failed to send to the league the trade document signed by both teams, after the Browns had sent the signed paperwork to Cincinnati.

 

 

There’s one small problem with that excuse. That’s not how trades are communicated to the league. And every key member of every front office knows, or should know, the proper procedure.

 

Per multiple league sources, a trade becomes official only when both teams independently communicate the trade to the league office. It definitely doesn’t happen as the Browns claim they tried to do it, with chain of communication involving one team sending a form to the other team, which then signs the form and sends it to the league.

 

And so here are the potential explanations for what’s going on. One, the Browns are lying about what happened to cover up their incompetence. Two, the Browns are telling the truth and are genuinely incompetent. Three, the Browns deliberately sent the paperwork to the Bengals and not to the league office in order to keep the trade from happening, with a premeditated “did I do that?” already in place.

 

Whatever the explanation, the Browns have yet again provided anyone who is paying attention a tangible example of the kind of dysfunction that, in an age of unprecedented parity, has resulted in the team winning one out of 24 games.

 

I still can't believe this deal got messed up like this. Even though it wasn't the Bengals fault, it still figures somehow it happens to the Bengals. Even though I wish the Bengals would play him. I know he is eventually going to be gone, because they will stick with Dalton. So it would have been huge to get those two picks.

Well first they may not get a chance to trade him, because he may be an unrestricted free agent. Second if they did still have him, why couldn't they get that same deal from the Browns? If the Browns truly were wanting to make that deal, then how would waiting a few months change that?

 

When will the Bengals know if they get him one more year?

 

To much time to rethink the parameters of the deal. Pundits are already saying the Bengals almost fleeced the Browns. Surely the Browns mgmt will revisit it, but I bet the Bengals don't get the same offer.

When will the Bengals know if they get him one more year?

 

To much time to rethink the parameters of the deal. Pundits are already saying the Bengals almost fleeced the Browns. Surely the Browns mgmt will revisit it, but I bet the Bengals don't get the same offer.

 

That is up in the air. They have to wait until an arbitrator rules on it. I would guess that won't happen until after this season. If he rules the Bengals do get to keep him one more year. The Bengals then still have the leverage, because they could hold out to get the offer they want. Plus now with the Jimmy G trade there is a framework for that type of a trade. So they could wait until just before the draft, or during the season again like they did this year.

The question not being asked is why was AJ not traded sooner like last offseason (or even the offseason before)?