June 22, 20179 yr Our team is 7 and 8 year olds, D1. We have had our coach since first year TBall. LAst year was first year of kid pitch and he played our kids every position unless the kid flat out refused. This year he told them "Im going to ask you where you want to play,but that doesnt necesarilly mean that's where you will play". My son wanted to play catcher but just wasnt cutting it, so our coach switched him to second and he ended making the all-star team. He does a very good job. He also ASKED for volunteers to pitch when not playing the field and only three boys stepped up. Unless our kids toss a no-no or perfect game, we will have minimum two pitchers. We have a 60 pitch limit, but you can finish your batter if he takes you past 60. One of our coaches tracks the pitch count for us and another coach does so to track the other team. Our league encourages all teams to do so. All leagues have "That" coach, I agree. I finally lost my cool this past Tuesday. Playing a team thats had our number since TBall, their guy bunts, the ball hits the plate first. Foul ball. Umpire not sure if it hit the dirt first or not. Our coaching staff (Im an assistant) begin hollering "foul ball, it hit the plate first". Ump correctly rules foul. Opposing coach yells vehemently "Dont let them call the game for you". I snapped (which is very immature) and yell "How can you sit there with a straight face and say that, when YOU know it was foul?" But that coach has a history of winning at all costs. Maybe not illegally but unethically.
June 22, 20179 yr Our team is 7 and 8 year olds, D1. We have had our coach since first year TBall. LAst year was first year of kid pitch and he played our kids every position unless the kid flat out refused. This year he told them "Im going to ask you where you want to play,but that doesnt necesarilly mean that's where you will play". My son wanted to play catcher but just wasnt cutting it, so our coach switched him to second and he ended making the all-star team. He does a very good job. He also ASKED for volunteers to pitch when not playing the field and only three boys stepped up. Unless our kids toss a no-no or perfect game, we will have minimum two pitchers. We have a 60 pitch limit, but you can finish your batter if he takes you past 60. One of our coaches tracks the pitch count for us and another coach does so to track the other team. Our league encourages all teams to do so. All leagues have "That" coach, I agree. I finally lost my cool this past Tuesday. Playing a team thats had our number since TBall, their guy bunts, the ball hits the plate first. Foul ball. Umpire not sure if it hit the dirt first or not. Our coaching staff (Im an assistant) begin hollering "foul ball, it hit the plate first". Ump correctly rules foul. Opposing coach yells vehemently "Dont let them call the game for you". I snapped (which is very immature) and yell "How can you sit there with a straight face and say that, when YOU know it was foul?" But that coach has a history of winning at all costs. Maybe not illegally but unethically. Home plate is fair territory. So if the bunted ball hits the plate first, then stops in fair ground, it's a fair ball. If it hits the plate first, but ends up in foul territory, it's foul.
June 22, 20179 yr Our team is 7 and 8 year olds, D1. We have had our coach since first year TBall. LAst year was first year of kid pitch and he played our kids every position unless the kid flat out refused. This year he told them "Im going to ask you where you want to play,but that doesnt necesarilly mean that's where you will play". My son wanted to play catcher but just wasnt cutting it, so our coach switched him to second and he ended making the all-star team. He does a very good job. He also ASKED for volunteers to pitch when not playing the field and only three boys stepped up. Unless our kids toss a no-no or perfect game, we will have minimum two pitchers. We have a 60 pitch limit, but you can finish your batter if he takes you past 60. One of our coaches tracks the pitch count for us and another coach does so to track the other team. Our league encourages all teams to do so. All leagues have "That" coach, I agree. I finally lost my cool this past Tuesday. Playing a team thats had our number since TBall, their guy bunts, the ball hits the plate first. Foul ball. Umpire not sure if it hit the dirt first or not. Our coaching staff (Im an assistant) begin hollering "foul ball, it hit the plate first". Ump correctly rules foul. Opposing coach yells vehemently "Dont let them call the game for you". I snapped (which is very immature) and yell "How can you sit there with a straight face and say that, when YOU know it was foul?" But that coach has a history of winning at all costs. Maybe not illegally but unethically. Sorry to derail this interesting thread, but the act of a batted ball hitting the plate does not make it a foul ball.
June 22, 20179 yr Our team is 7 and 8 year olds, D1. We have had our coach since first year TBall. LAst year was first year of kid pitch and he played our kids every position unless the kid flat out refused. This year he told them "Im going to ask you where you want to play,but that doesnt necesarilly mean that's where you will play". My son wanted to play catcher but just wasnt cutting it, so our coach switched him to second and he ended making the all-star team. He does a very good job. He also ASKED for volunteers to pitch when not playing the field and only three boys stepped up. Unless our kids toss a no-no or perfect game, we will have minimum two pitchers. We have a 60 pitch limit, but you can finish your batter if he takes you past 60. One of our coaches tracks the pitch count for us and another coach does so to track the other team. Our league encourages all teams to do so. All leagues have "That" coach, I agree. I finally lost my cool this past Tuesday. Playing a team thats had our number since TBall, their guy bunts, the ball hits the plate first. Foul ball. Umpire not sure if it hit the dirt first or not. Our coaching staff (Im an assistant) begin hollering "foul ball, it hit the plate first". Ump correctly rules foul. Opposing coach yells vehemently "Dont let them call the game for you". I snapped (which is very immature) and yell "How can you sit there with a straight face and say that, when YOU know it was foul?" But that coach has a history of winning at all costs. Maybe not illegally but unethically. Not to thread jack, but a ball hitting the plate first is NOT a foul ball. The plate is in fair territory. This is one of the common myths that people get wrong all the time. For a ball to be called foul it must either be touched or come to rest in foul territory. Whether it hits the plate or not isn't relevant.
June 22, 20179 yr Author If that's the case, what does the umpire do? They still call outs and help with the tee...the outs just don't really count.
June 22, 20179 yr Well you learn something everyday. I always thought if it was bunted on the plate it was foul. What if the ball should hit the plate and somehow stay on the plate? If I'm wrong I'll have to apologize. Any reason the umpire would change his call other than us getting to him? He's done a phenomena job every time we've had him this year, regardless of the outcomes of our games Edited June 22, 20179 yr by Jackie Ed Typo
June 22, 20179 yr Well you learn something everyday. I always thought if it was bunted on the plate it was foul. What if the ball should hit the plate and somehow stay on the plate? If I'm wrong I'll have to apologize. Any reason the umpire would change his call other than us getting to him? He's done a phenomena job every time we've had him this year, regardless of the outcomes of our games Part of the problem in all youth sports which adds to the craziness overall. People vehemently arguing rules they don't know.
June 22, 20179 yr How long is the average tball game? About 45 minutes to an hour. He usually works 3 games when he is scheduled.
June 22, 20179 yr Well you learn something everyday. I always thought if it was bunted on the plate it was foul. What if the ball should hit the plate and somehow stay on the plate? If I'm wrong I'll have to apologize. Any reason the umpire would change his call other than us getting to him? He's done a phenomena job every time we've had him this year, regardless of the outcomes of our games Fair ball. The plate is in fair territory. Can't think of a reason an ump who was aware of the rule, would change his call. This is one of the many myths regarding baseball rules. The hands are not part of the bat, the runner does not have to turn right when over running first base, the ball is not dead on a caught foul tip, are a few others that fans often get wrong.
June 22, 20179 yr If I recall correctly, I think they went 3 full innings. No outs and everyone bats. They still call outs and help with the tee...the outs just don't really count. This. And I am pretty sure there are 2 umps for each game.
June 22, 20179 yr Fair ball. The plate is in fair territory. Can't think of a reason an ump who was aware of the rule, would change his call. This is one of the many myths regarding baseball rules. The hands are not part of the bat, the runner does not have to turn right when over running first base, the ball is not dead on a caught foul tip, are a few others that fans often get wrong. I hear coaches tell kids they have to go right or can be tagged out all the time.
June 22, 20179 yr I hear coaches tell kids they have to go right or can be tagged out all the time. I've always recommended that simply because there are many umps who don't know the rule. You can turn in any direction you want, as long as you don't make a clear effort to go to the next base.
June 22, 20179 yr I've always recommended that simply because there are many umps who don't know the rule. You can turn in any direction you want, as long as you don't make a clear effort to go to the next base. This is why it is taught to turn right, it takes a subjective call out of play.
June 22, 20179 yr This. And I am pretty sure there are 2 umps for each game. OK. You can quit screwing with us now.
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