February 22, 20179 yr Along this line, my bro-in-law lives in Paintsville and reports that the coal trucks have been running steadily for some time. I'd like to know if that's true and if there has been any impact in EKY to get some folks back to work there. Anyone have a clue from the mountain region? @Watusi?
February 22, 20179 yr Along this line, my bro-in-law lives in Paintsville and reports that the coal trucks have been running steadily for some time. I'd like to know if that's true and if there has been any impact in EKY to get some folks back to work there. Anyone have a clue from the mountain region? @Watusi? They're not as common as 10 years ago, but they're still out there.
February 22, 20179 yr Well, this falls right in line with the new EPA guy being a guy that sued them 13 or 14 times. Because of their overreach. You forgot to add that .
February 22, 20179 yr Fair but moot. Simple question: Is coal contributing to unsafe water? I think most would say that they are. If so, why would we roll back something, regardless of who or how long it took to get enacted, that protects public health? It's really that simple. In what way ? Please be specific.
February 22, 20179 yr The Ohio River has been running coal barges from west to east — the wrong way — for a decade or more now. Obama didn't kill that. Logistics and the wildcatter nature of coal companies did that. While this is a true statement on it's surface, it's not accurate as a whole. The primary reason for the barges running full from West to East is the type of coal being burned in the eastern plants from the IRB and PRB areas. This particular type of coal has been promoted as being able to reduce the overall particulate emission issue that has been of concern. Has little to nothing to do with "wildcatter nature of coal companies" and much, much more to do with the energy companies attempting to maintain compliance with current air permits and emissions restrictions....Obama most certainly did that....
February 22, 20179 yr Along this line, my bro-in-law lives in Paintsville and reports that the coal trucks have been running steadily for some time. I'd like to know if that's true and if there has been any impact in EKY to get some folks back to work there. Anyone have a clue from the mountain region? @Watusi? From a domestic supply perspective, the answer is no, however, international exports are still riding a good market. The coal industry, as it has historically been, in eastern KY is effectively shut down. There are some operations still running, but I do not believe there is going to be a revival of the old days. Coal fired power plants in the region are shutting at a fairly rapid rate and will continue to do so, in particular in Ohio where de-regulation blew a business model into a bazillion pieces so that energy companies had no chance to survive. The irony is that many of the PA / WV / KY / OH people who so desperately need an economic resurgence are likely not to see that rebound in the energy sector. The damage is done and the un-winding of regulations will not revive the industry. Additionally, even though natgas prices are low, these same areas do not have appropriate natgas infrastructure to be able to use it as a replacement fuel. The Ohio River has been a staple for the coal industry logistically for well over 100 years.....a natural infrastructure for delivery of a regionally sustaining resource.... Nobody had the vision or capital to think forward enough that if we killed one industry, and weren't yet ready to receive another, that we would be stuck..... ....and stuck we will be.
February 22, 20179 yr ....I've been busy trying to keep a coal plant running and keep 1,000 people on two sites employed...sorry....:sssh:
February 22, 20179 yr I don't take issue with phasing out fossil fuels by developing something cleaner, as cost efficient and available. I am not a fan of mining and especially strip mining. However, Obama's acts could be seen as targeting a region without any consideration of the impact on the people and no plan for mitigating that impact. Those people don't have the political and media voice of some other groups. Had this been a white President killing the livelihoods of predominantly black people, there would have been shouts of racism from every corner. In the short to long run, I believe Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia are naturally beautiful areas, and I believe taking advantage of those natural resources and promoting park and nature areas and developing tourism is a better long-term option for the people there than relying on coal which is becoming played out and more costly to mine anyway. I am concerned that there are certain local lawmakers who want millions + for infrastructure in these areas to lure manufacturers, and I just don't see that as a cost effective or useful solution. Manufacturers should locate where people and structure already exist and re-develop what was developed and abandoned rather than what we usually do...leave abandoned scars and then more cheaply buy farmland or other undeveloped land and bulldoze it up and "put in a bunch of ugly boxes". Just one man's opinion.
February 22, 20179 yr Why putting coal miners out of work is a very bad thing to say in West Virginia - The Washington Post
February 22, 20179 yr I don't take issue with phasing out fossil fuels by developing something cleaner, as cost efficient and available. I am not a fan of mining and especially strip mining. However, Obama's acts could be seen as targeting a region without any consideration of the impact on the people and no plan for mitigating that impact. Those people don't have the political and media voice of some other groups. Had this been a white President killing the livelihoods of predominantly black people, there would have been shouts of racism from every corner. In the short to long run, I believe Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia are naturally beautiful areas, and I believe taking advantage of those natural resources and promoting park and nature areas and developing tourism is a better long-term option for the people there than relying on coal which is becoming played out and more costly to mine anyway. I am concerned that there are certain local lawmakers who want millions + for infrastructure in these areas to lure manufacturers, and I just don't see that as a cost effective or useful solution. Manufacturers should locate where people and structure already exist and re-develop what was developed and abandoned rather than what we usually do...leave abandoned scars and then more cheaply buy farmland or other undeveloped land and bulldoze it up and "put in a bunch of ugly boxes". Just one man's opinion. You mean like the coal mining and usage regions, right ?
June 19, 20179 yr John Oliver Exposes Donald Trump's Biggest Lie About Coal Jobs | HuffPost Language warning.
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