November 3, 20169 yr No one should be proud of these candidates. I will vote party lines. Republican. We have become too liberal. I want to work, earn my own money and spend it how I please. Liberals want to spend my money for their social reforms. Pay your own way.
November 4, 20169 yr You are trying to torment these guys :lol2: I think most would welcome that scenario over the alternative options of Hillary or Trump. :lol2:
November 4, 20169 yr You are trying to torment these guys :lol2: Id rather have a third term of Obama over Hillary, without question.
November 4, 20169 yr Id rather have a third term of Obama over Hillary, without question. That would be delightful! Heck he might be able to get the National Debt up to $40 trillion by then? We could have family health policies that "only" cost $3500-4000/month with maybe $15,000-20,000 out of pocket minimums? Russia could take over most of Europe, etc. There's a reason the Founders wanted term limits!
November 4, 20169 yr That would be delightful! Heck he might be able to get the National Debt up to $40 trillion by then? We could have family health policies that "only" cost $3500-4000/month with maybe $15,000-20,000 out of pocket minimums? Russia could take over most of Europe, etc. There's a reason the Founders wanted term limits! Did you even read, or understand my post? I'm not an Obama fan by any means. I am scared of Hillary Clinton as our President. He's not good, but I'm afraid she will be worse. It was a hypothetical statement I used to show how much I dislike Hillary
November 4, 20169 yr Did you even read, or understand my post? I'm not an Obama fan by any means. I am scared of Hillary Clinton as our President. He's not good, but I'm afraid she will be worse. It was a hypothetical statement I used to show how much I dislike Hillary I'm scared primarily of more debt--Greece on steroids doesn't have a good ring to it to me? I did read your post, and while certainly not a Hillary fan (especially after many of these e-mails substantiate the "right wing nut job bloggers" theories); but I honestly felt she would have been a better choice than Obama back in 2008. He mostly lacked any meaningful experience at much of anything--No business, little political, etc. That concerned me, and in my eyes has been borne out; as I don't believe we are better off than 8 years ago. Understand your context, but don't think we'd fare better under more tripling of the debt--Getting unsustainable. Math never lies; only those that interpret it!
November 4, 20169 yr I'm scared primarily of more debt--Greece on steroids doesn't have a good ring to it to me? I did read your post, and while certainly not a Hillary fan (especially after many of these e-mails substantiate the "right wing nut job bloggers" theories); but I honestly felt she would have been a better choice than Obama back in 2008. He mostly lacked any meaningful experience at much of anything--No business, little political, etc. That concerned me, and in my eyes has been borne out; as I don't believe we are better off than 8 years ago. Understand your context, but don't think we'd fare better under more tripling of the debt--Getting unsustainable. Math never lies; only those that interpret it! Once again, not an Obama fan. Never said he did a good job. Dont really want him for a 3rd term. Simply saying he would be better than a Clinton presidency. Don't need a lecture on debt. I get it.
November 4, 20169 yr Once again, not an Obama fan. Never said he did a good job. Dont really want him for a 3rd term. Simply saying he would be better than a Clinton presidency. Don't need a lecture on debt. I get it. Understand and we agree that a Clinton Presidency would be dangerous, and who knows about Trump? Regarding any lecture, I'm simply stating facts, not directed at you in particular--Maybe Obama or similar supporters? And if that's a lecture; someone needs to retreat to their "safe space"?
November 4, 20169 yr I'm scared primarily of more debt--Greece on steroids doesn't have a good ring to it to me? I did read your post, and while certainly not a Hillary fan (especially after many of these e-mails substantiate the "right wing nut job bloggers" theories); but I honestly felt she would have been a better choice than Obama back in 2008. He mostly lacked any meaningful experience at much of anything--No business, little political, etc. That concerned me, and in my eyes has been borne out; as I don't believe we are better off than 8 years ago. Understand your context, but don't think we'd fare better under more tripling of the debt--Getting unsustainable. Math never lies; only those that interpret it! Both of these candidates will grow the debt based on their plans as president. I have been surprised this hasn't been more of an issue in the race. In previous elections the debt issue has been a hot topic. This campaign, very little talk about the debt.
November 4, 20169 yr Debating the impact that the campaign promises of two serial liars will have on the debt or the economy is akin to arguing over how many angels will fit on the head of a pin. Nobody can say which plan is better because nobody can possibly have much confidence that either candidate will make good on their promises. What I can say with confidence is that Hillary has a very bad performance record as an elected and appointed public official and Trump has no political record that we can judge. This election should be viewed as nothing more than an exercise in damage control because both candidates represent different threats to the general welfare of this nation.
November 4, 20169 yr That would be delightful! Heck he might be able to get the National Debt up to $40 trillion by then? We could have family health policies that "only" cost $3500-4000/month with maybe $15,000-20,000 out of pocket minimums? Russia could take over most of Europe, etc. There's a reason the Founders wanted term limits! The Founders didn't put in Presidential term limits. That was a 20th Century Amendment.
November 4, 20169 yr Understand and we agree that a Clinton Presidency would be dangerous, and who knows about Trump? Regarding any lecture, I'm simply stating facts, not directed at you in particular--Maybe Obama or similar supporters? And if that's a lecture; someone needs to retreat to their "safe space"? No safe space needed, pal. Just hope you understand you're overreacting to a hypothetical comment that was only used to show how dangerous i feel Hilary is.
November 4, 20169 yr That would be delightful! Heck he might be able to get the National Debt up to $40 trillion by then? We could have family health policies that "only" cost $3500-4000/month with maybe $15,000-20,000 out of pocket minimums? Russia could take over most of Europe, etc. There's a reason the Founders wanted term limits! The founders wanted term limits? Edit: @Hatz covered this already. My bad.
November 4, 20169 yr That would be delightful! Heck he might be able to get the National Debt up to $40 trillion by then? We could have family health policies that "only" cost $3500-4000/month with maybe $15,000-20,000 out of pocket minimums? Russia could take over most of Europe, etc. There's a reason the Founders wanted term limits! Um, no they didn't. They just wanted slaves they could fornicate with.
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