Interesting side not to this term "level playing field." Over and over we hear that this is not real life and we are raising kids who can't participate in the real world.

 

Watching the news and Katie Courac says that the leaders of the Big 3 met with President Bush because they were not on a "level playing field" with the foreign auto makers. Guess it is part of real, grownup adult life.

But I think in that scenario instead of limiting what their competitors were able to do or removing that competition, The President stressed that the Big 3 need to adapt what they are doing to be more competative with the competition. That sounds familiar as well.

 

And that ladies and gentlemen is my 3000th post. Kind of appropriate it would be in this forum.

To answer your question without specifically naming a school; the arch-diocese of Lexington covers every middle school in Central Kentucky for a 100 mile radius. This means that any Catholic Middle School student that lives within 100 miles from a Catholic school in Lexington belongs to that arch-diocese. Therefore, a Catholic middle school in Richmond, Versailles, Frankfort, Georgetown, Winchester, Nicholasville, etc. can send there kids to participate in Lexington for athletics; however, a kid that is at Good Shepherd in Frankfort cannot participate in extra-curricular's at Bondurant or Hearn.

 

No matter what side of the fence you are on, this creates an uneven playing field. For instance, Western Hills has one feeder school (Bondurant Middle School) Lexington Catholic would have as many feeder schools equaling the number of Catholic Middle Schools within the 100 mile radius.

 

Why doesn't Western Hills expand its feeder schools? Does the state have some law that doesn't allow that?

To answer your question without specifically naming a school; the arch-diocese of Lexington covers every middle school in Central Kentucky for a 100 mile radius. This means that any Catholic Middle School student that lives within 100 miles from a Catholic school in Lexington belongs to that arch-diocese. Therefore, a Catholic middle school in Richmond, Versailles, Frankfort, Georgetown, Winchester, Nicholasville, etc. can send there kids to participate in Lexington for athletics; however, a kid that is at Good Shepherd in Frankfort cannot participate in extra-curricular's at Bondurant or Hearn.

 

No matter what side of the fence you are on, this creates an uneven playing field. For instance, Western Hills has one feeder school (Bondurant Middle School) Lexington Catholic would have as many feeder schools equaling the number of Catholic Middle Schools within the 100 mile radius.

Well whats wrong with that ? Catholic kids should have a opportunity to go to a Catholic high school , and they should not be discriminated against because of that .

To answer your question without specifically naming a school; the arch-diocese of Lexington covers every middle school in Central Kentucky for a 100 mile radius. This means that any Catholic Middle School student that lives within 100 miles from a Catholic school in Lexington belongs to that arch-diocese. Therefore, a Catholic middle school in Richmond, Versailles, Frankfort, Georgetown, Winchester, Nicholasville, etc. can send there kids to participate in Lexington for athletics; however, a kid that is at Good Shepherd in Frankfort cannot participate in extra-curricular's at Bondurant or Hearn.

 

No matter what side of the fence you are on, this creates an uneven playing field. For instance, Western Hills has one feeder school (Bondurant Middle School) Lexington Catholic would have as many feeder schools equaling the number of Catholic Middle Schools within the 100 mile radius.

MLB50, what do you think about Bondurant or Elkhorn non-Catholics feeding to a Catholic High School?

 

William Graham attended Bondurant Middle School and was an impact athlete.

 

Nikki Davis attended Elkhorn Middle School and was an impact athlete.

 

Both are non-Catholic.

Well whats wrong with that ? Catholic kids should have a opportunity to go to a Catholic high school , and they should not be discriminated against because of that .

 

whether it's right or wrong is not the question? The question is does this warrant an unfair playing field. If one school can choose between and get kids involved during middle school from 80+ middle schools and other schools are not allowed to get kids involved unless they are at a specific single middle school; that is unfair.

 

I am not judging what the Catholic and/or any other private school does to recruit students. If there are no other Catholic high schools in these other bordering counties, and a parent wants their kid to get a Catholic education, go for it. I will probably do the same with my own kids. However, the fact of the matter is that the playing field is still not equal. Therefore, some adjustment has to be made to make the playing fields level.

 

The simple solution would be for schools that have more than one feeder school to play in a separate classification. However, we all know politics will not allow this to happen in Kentucky. Therefore, the only logical solution would be to make those schools participate at a higher rate of students. The other issue is kids from outside of the state of Kentucky. I know that one northern Kentucky school had approximately 20 kids from Ohio that played football for them last year. If you make these teams play up, it would level the playing field as well.

 

As far as discrimination, how so? How would this be discrimination?

MLB50, what do you think about Bondurant or Elkhorn non-Catholics feeding to a Catholic High School?

 

William Graham attended Bondurant Middle School and was an impact athlete.

 

Nikki Davis attended Elkhorn Middle School and was an impact athlete.

 

Both are non-Catholic.

 

I understand why people in Frankfort would be upset with this situation. However, this was the choice of the parents to send these 2 kids to Lexington Catholic for a "better education" and "better athletic opportunities." I must say looking back at the careers of both, they made the right decision. Both one state championships in basketball.

 

The KHSAA nor anyone else can control where a parent chooses to send their kid to school; however, they can adjust the #'s to make things more even across the board. By implementing a 1.5/student or higher on private schools, you will have them consistently playing up with schools that can compete with them year in and year out. This is what the issue is about "on the field equity". When you have a whole 3A class of football with no more than 50 kids; yet Lex Cath roles in w/ 100+ things might be tilted one way.

 

Two or three years ago Lex Christian (1A) one the baseball championship which is not classified as 1A, 2A, 3A or 4A. That means they were the best team in the state out of any level.

 

I'm just saying if they aren't going to put the private schools in their own class (like many of our bordering states have already done), they should atleast have them play where the competition is fair and equitable.

Why are you guys talking about Frankfort, Lexington Christian and the like. Don't you get it. It is all about T and X football, remember. :lol:

Why are you guys talking about Frankfort, Lexington Christian and the like. Don't you get it. It is all about T and X football, remember. :lol:

 

 

And as soon as the privates are separated, it will be about the independents and open enrollments schools. Even if X/T are eliminated in football, the Male/Manuel/PRPs of the Jefferson County aren't going anywhere. Highlands, Belfry, Beechwood aren't going anywhere either. How far are you going to take this?

whether it's right or wrong is not the question? The question is does this warrant an unfair playing field. If one school can choose between and get kids involved during middle school from 80+ middle schools and other schools are not allowed to get kids involved unless they are at a specific single middle school; that is unfair.

 

I am not judging what the Catholic and/or any other private school does to recruit students. If there are no other Catholic high schools in these other bordering counties, and a parent wants their kid to get a Catholic education, go for it. I will probably do the same with my own kids. However, the fact of the matter is that the playing field is still not equal. Therefore, some adjustment has to be made to make the playing fields level.

 

The simple solution would be for schools that have more than one feeder school to play in a separate classification. However, we all know politics will not allow this to happen in Kentucky. Therefore, the only logical solution would be to make those schools participate at a higher rate of students. The other issue is kids from outside of the state of Kentucky. I know that one northern Kentucky school had approximately 20 kids from Ohio that played football for them last year. If you make these teams play up, it would level the playing field as well.

 

As far as discrimination, how so? How would this be discrimination?

Its blatant segregation the type that was foisted on the black population by the powers that were . That is how it is discrimination . What Northern Ky High School had 20 kids from Ohio on it last year ? Information please ? A private message if you would prefer .

 

The KHSAA nor anyone else can control where a parent chooses to send their kid to school;

I don't disagree, but the thing the KHSAA does, and should continue to do is enforce the rules they have in place.

Its blatant segregation the type that was foisted on the black population by the powers that were . That is how it is discrimination . What Northern Ky High School had 20 kids from Ohio on it last year ? Information please ? A private message if you would prefer .

 

BLATANT SEGREGATION? R U joking or what? Private schools are segregated from public schools. They don't receive federal or state funding from tax based monies. Your arguement is falling apart. If anything, parents that send their kids to private schools are paying for segregation from problems that persist in public schools. Private schools pick and choose kids based on testing and other aspects. Public schools accept everyone. SURELY U CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS AS AN ARGUEMENT.

 

As for the Northern Ky school, look at the addresses on the KHSAA website that the football coaches have to turn in. Approximately 20 addresses are from Cincinnati from one of these northern Kentucky schools.:ylsuper:

I don't disagree, but the thing the KHSAA does, and should continue to do is enforce the rules they have in place.

 

I agree 100% with you. However, they need some new rules to keep up with the times. There are more and more private high schools joining the association every year. Since they are playing by different rules, something has to be done to "even the playing field".

 

Personally, I don't think the playing field will ever be equal in certain sports (baseball, basketball, softball). If you are a 1A school, you can't compete with 4A schools on a yearly basis. There is no way that Berea will be able to compete with Madison Central on a yearly basis. All high school sports should be broken into classes like football. The only thing preventing this from happening is "The Sweet Sixteen". The KHSAA would lose a ton of money if this happened in Basketball. (new site)

 

Someone out there that's retired and has some free time should check the stats and see over the past 10 years how many 1A and 2A schools have won and/or participated in a state championship.

The two players from Frankfort who played at LexCath also earned scholarships to college. That may not have happened had they stayed in Frankfort. Their parents made the best decision for their children. I might add anyone who lives in Frankfort and wants to make the 60 mile round trip,fight the traffic on Clays Mill every day for four years, study in an all college prep environment and pay tuition for that privilege is pretty motivated. What's wrong with that?

BLATANT SEGREGATION? R U joking or what? Private schools are segregated from public schools. They don't receive federal or state funding from tax based monies. Your arguement is falling apart. If anything, parents that send their kids to private schools are paying for segregation from problems that persist in public schools. Private schools pick and choose kids based on testing and other aspects. Public schools accept everyone. SURELY U CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS AS AN ARGUEMENT.

 

As for the Northern Ky school, look at the addresses on the KHSAA website that the football coaches have to turn in. Approximately 20 addresses are from Cincinnati from one of these northern Kentucky schools.:ylsuper:

A parent sending a Student to a private school is their perogative . Having the majority trying to seperate the minority from themselves because of imaginary grievences is blatant discrimination . In the United States seperate but equal is against the law . What the public apologists would have is even worse seperate and un-equal .

The other issue is kids from outside of the state of Kentucky. I know that one northern Kentucky school had approximately 20 kids from Ohio that played football for them last year. If you make these teams play up, it would level the playing field as well.

 

As far as discrimination, how so? How would this be discrimination?

 

No, you don't know of any NKY team that had 20 kids from Ohio. That is laughable.