June 14, 201610 yr I am not a big conspiracy guy but I firmly believe that if GS was down 3-1 instead of up 3-1, Green would have played game 5. What he did in the OKC series was worse IMO and he was not suspended then...because they were not up in the series at the time. That is how I see it so I actually think what Donaghy said has some validity to it. Flagrant foul rules apply, even in the finals. Still don't see a flagrant, but I just want good games, so I'm not complaining.
June 15, 201610 yr I am not a big conspiracy guy but I firmly believe that if GS was down 3-1 instead of up 3-1, Green would have played game 5. What he did in the OKC series was worse IMO and he was not suspended then...because they were not up in the series at the time. That is how I see it so I actually think what Donaghy said has some validity to it. He wasn't suspended for this game because of the foul he committed. He was suspended because the NBA decided his foul was a flagrant foul(it was) and he had accumulated too many flagrant foul points throughout the playoffs. A lot of people seem to be listening to disgraced referee Tim Donaghy. I find that funny. A guy proven to have zero credibility and integrity is now the NBA is Rigged Chief Analyst.
June 15, 201610 yr He wasn't suspended for this game because of the foul he committed. He was suspended because the NBA decided his foul was a flagrant foul(it was) and he had accumulated too many flagrant foul points throughout the playoffs. A lot of people seem to be listening to disgraced referee Tim Donaghy. I find that funny. A guy proven to have zero credibility and integrity is now the NBA is Rigged Chief Analyst. I understand why he was suspended - cumulative number of flagrant fouls. What he did in the OKC series (kicked Adams in the groin) was worse than the other night and it was not deemed as flagrant...which would have gotten him suspended in that series for the cumulative number of fouls. So PP, if GS was down 3-1, you still believe he would have been suspended in game 5? Fine if you do...I just don't... I am certainly not a fan of Donaghy...what he says makes sense though. Conseco was a cheat as well...and proven to be correct on a lot of stuff...
June 15, 201610 yr Flagrant foul rules apply, even in the finals. Still don't see a flagrant, but I just want good games, so I'm not complaining. You are making my point. I did not see it as flagrant either. IMO, the NBA would not have seen it as flagrant either if GS was down 3-1 instead of up 3-1.
June 15, 201610 yr Author You are making my point. I did not see it as flagrant either. IMO' date=' the NBA would not have seen it as flagrant either if GS was down 3-1 instead of up 3-1.[/quote'] Intentionally going to deez nuts is absolutely a flagrant and doesn't require much time to decide.
June 15, 201610 yr I understand why he was suspended - cumulative number of flagrant fouls. What he did in the OKC series (kicked Adams in the groin) was worse than the other night and it was not deemed as flagrant...which would have gotten him suspended in that series for the cumulative number of fouls. So PP, if GS was down 3-1, you still believe he would have been suspended in game 5? Fine if you do...I just don't... I am certainly not a fan of Donaghy...what he says makes sense though. Conseco was a cheat as well...and proven to be correct on a lot of stuff... He did get a flagrant for the Adams kick, but didn't have enough flagrant foul points for a suspension. Need four points for a suspension in the playoffs.
June 15, 201610 yr Does his count reset now or will he be suspended again if he gets another flagrant?
June 15, 201610 yr Does his count reset now or will he be suspended again if he gets another flagrant? Another suspension.
June 15, 201610 yr I understand why he was suspended - cumulative number of flagrant fouls. What he did in the OKC series (kicked Adams in the groin) was worse than the other night and it was not deemed as flagrant...which would have gotten him suspended in that series for the cumulative number of fouls. So PP, if GS was down 3-1, you still believe he would have been suspended in game 5? Fine if you do...I just don't... I am certainly not a fan of Donaghy...what he says makes sense though. Conseco was a cheat as well...and proven to be correct on a lot of stuff... I think his foul against Adams was a flagrant foul and correctly called. The foul against Lebron was a flagrant also. The whole world saw him swing at Lebron not once but twice. That's much easier to prove than whether or not his kick to Adams was simply a follow through of momentum. It reminds me of when Kobe had that period of following through his jumpsuits with kicks and elbows. After one too many the NBA stepped in and laid down the law to Kobe and he went back to shooting jumpers without hurting people. Seems like the league took the same stance with Draymond. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. How many times and how long should the league act like they don't see a pattern from Draymond? I bet he doesn't hit anyone below the belt ever again in his NBA career.
June 15, 201610 yr Intentionally going to deez nuts is absolutely a flagrant and doesn't require much time to decide. I agree that going for that area is not acceptable. Once again, my point is that if GS was down 3-1 and not up 3-1, the NBA would have called it a technical and Green would have played game 5. I am not debating whether it should have been a flagrant or not here...although that is debatable too IMO.
June 15, 201610 yr I think his foul against Adams was a flagrant foul and correctly called. The foul against Lebron was a flagrant also. The whole world saw him swing at Lebron not once but twice. That's much easier to prove than whether or not his kick to Adams was simply a follow through of momentum. It reminds me of when Kobe had that period of following through his jumpsuits with kicks and elbows. After one too many the NBA stepped in and laid down the law to Kobe and he went back to shooting jumpers without hurting people. Seems like the league took the same stance with Draymond. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. How many times and how long should the league act like they don't see a pattern from Draymond? I bet he doesn't hit anyone below the belt ever again in his NBA career. Don't necessarily disagree with this post at all. However, you did not answer my question. Do you think the NBA would have called it a flagrant (and therefore suspended Green for game 5) if GS was down 3-1 and not up 3-1. That is my point. I don't think there is any chance they would.
June 15, 201610 yr He did get a flagrant for the Adams kick, but didn't have enough flagrant foul points for a suspension. Need four points for a suspension in the playoffs. My bad on that...you are correct. I misinterpreted what I heard on Mike and Mike on that. It still does not change my stance on the suspension. I have posted that stance enough though...you guys get the point:)
June 15, 201610 yr Don't necessarily disagree with this post at all. However, you did not answer my question. Do you think the NBA would have called it a flagrant (and therefore suspended Green for game 5) if GS was down 3-1 and not up 3-1. That is my point. I don't think there is any chance they would. Swinging at a man's nuts after getting lucky the last few times? I would hope they would.
June 15, 201610 yr Don't necessarily disagree with this post at all. However, you did not answer my question. Do you think the NBA would have called it a flagrant (and therefore suspended Green for game 5) if GS was down 3-1 and not up 3-1. That is my point. I don't think there is any chance they would. I think they would have but I am thinking that it was too obvious of a foul not to call it. I'm still surprised they didn't call it immediately on the court. He took two swings by my count.
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