May 29, 201610 yr Nkyknowitall; that's is what I am hearing, that for a baby gorilla, the way that he dragged this kid would not have been considered being violent. A gorilla is going to treat a youngster the same whether it be a young gorilla or human, from what I hear he did not violently drag the boy. We have seen this in the past where a kid would somehow end up in a gorilla pit, and the gorilla would protect the child, not harm them. Why did the onlookers think it would be a good idea to to scream and yell? Wouldn't your first thought be that the screaming and yelling would spook the gorilla? He is in a pit about 12 feet below you, he is about 500lbs or so, the gorilla is not going to be scared of some humans, you can see on the video where he stands the boy up and not harming him at all, the boy looks very calm! It does look like the gorilla was curious of the child, but with all of the screaming and yelling he was worried about the boy and took him away as if it was a baby gorilla, look at the size of the boy and a baby gorilla the same size, the gorilla didn't treat the boy any differently. I am also wondering if the zoos emergency response team actually saw the gorilla drag the boy? Or if they were only going by what the uneducated untrained on lookers were telling what they thought happened before the emergency response team got there? I would seriously like to ask Thane that, ask him what exactly did the emergency response team witness? I don't care who this lady is, if I knew her, yes the fact that the boy is safe is the first priority. But I don't care if I just knew of her somehow or if she was a family member, every time I saw her, talked to her, or had the opportunity, I would ask her some very strong questions, to the point that I am sure it will lead to her not wanting to talk to me for a long while. THIS is SOME parents are so lackadaisical in taking care of kids, if they mess up big time, and I'm not talking about a kid who sneaks away and does something, I'm talking about thing that are 100% the adults fault, such as leaving a child in a bit car and the child is very seriously injured or dies. YES, the parent, adult, whoever it is, would be devastated and feeling horrible about it, BUT, does that excuse their action(s), or inaction and neglect? NO! They should still face the consequences if the child is harmed, or in this case, if it decided that the mother could have or should have prevented this, some punished should happen. I don't know what the punishment it should be, I do not agree with incarceration unless it was murder, rape and violent crimes, BUT, if the mother is at fault, something needs to be done to her, as well as her being set as an example that all adults have to be responsible when they are looking after children. If a lady who was not with this mother heard the boy repeating that he wanted to jump into the pit and play with the gorilla, and the mother in this case did hear him say this multiple times, why didn't she take him seriously? IMO it seams like this boy is very curious and adventurist, that he may say he is leaving at a store or where ever, if so, then the mother should have taken him seriously! Why didn't the zoo have the opportunity to talk to the boy and the mother? Last night I saw an 8 minute intercut with the zoos Thane Mannard, and he said that they didn't get to talk to the mother yet? WHAT? And I also find it very odd that they do not have surveillance cameras around the big exhibits. But we all know what is most likely to happen, either the mother or someone that knows her, will talk her into suing the zoo, or some attorney will find her and convince her to sue. If she even thinks about this, I were the zoos attorney I would fight tooth and nail pushing the neglect side of this and be taking to CPS non-stop to go after the mother until she stops the lawsuit or CPS decides to intervene. Sorry for the long posts, these new meds have me going on with things, all things but politics lol. BUT, THIS right here, this should be something that we ALL can agree on for the most part and not have it end in an argument. Forget the election and what Trump says it does for a couple of days and demand that all adults who are responsible for kids are are actually held accountable. (Hey! BballFan hacked into my iPhone and made these long posts, lol)
May 29, 201610 yr Witnesses said that to seemed as if the gorilla was attempting to protect the child. Possibly from the humans screaming and yelling? Killed Gorilla Seemed to Protect Child Who Fell in Enclosure: Witness - NBC News
May 29, 201610 yr Three different videos at KSR: (UPDATE) Gorilla killed at Cincinnati Zoo after child falls into exhibit | Kentucky Sports Radio
May 29, 201610 yr I'm sorry, in my opinion the people yelling and screaming made the gorilla think that THEY were a danger to the child, that this gorilla was simply protecting the boy as he would have protected a baby gorilla. Again, I hope the zoo says if they actually saw how the gorilla was handling the child or if they went by the untrained and hysterical visitors? Why did all these people stay around watching? I can see some taking videos as they can also be very helpful after the incident is over, but it sounds like there were a lot of people who stayed around adding needless commotion which may have frustrated the gorilla. And it also sounds like some other kids were around too, that would be the very first thing to do, is get all of the other kids out of sight of this, as well as the other needless people. Agreed that it's a sad situation. If it is concluded that the mother was neglectful in some way, that she is happy that her poor parenting skills lead to this and the killing of the gorilla that many many many people enjoyed. That's IF it is concluded that she endangered the child.
May 29, 201610 yr If you cannot adequately be responsible for multiple children at the ZOO....DON'T GO TO THE ZOO! This incident should have never happened!!!
May 29, 201610 yr No matter how many safety precautions a public place takes, a willful and precocious child will find a way to climb/jump/crawl wherever they want to, if they have the freedom to do so. Recently at the Cincy Zoo on a field trip with 7th graders. We spent a good bit of time in the reptile house, as students were doing research. I was looking around and noticed that if someone really wanted to climb the barrier and jump into the alligator pit in the center of the building, they could. (Or maybe it was crocs--??) Anyway, if you are a person of unsound mind or a precocious child, keeping the world completely safe for you is an almost impossible task. Caretakers----step up!!!!!!
May 29, 201610 yr The zoo should sue the family for the murder of an endangered species. Did the crowd there see the gorilla get murdered with the shot or did they make them leave? What will be done with that poor animal that was murdered. I hope stuffed and put into a museum.
May 30, 201610 yr The people at the zoo had no choice. They had to do whatever it took to save the child. Sadly that meant killing the gorilla. I agree with everyone that said the parents should not be able to sue. The zoo did nothing wrong. The parents are stupid. They should be extatiic that their child is alive in spite of their stupidity.
May 30, 201610 yr Any video of the parents who should have been at the exhibit, or were they off wandering around somewhere else.
May 30, 201610 yr It's going to be a money grab situation trust me. In this "sue anyone and everyone" society we live in not to mention the bloodsucking lawyers. Very sad, hate seeing the Gorilla get taken out but that scene could've been really messy. The parents should definitely be held accountable but at the same time the Zoo should have barriers up that make it more difficult for anyone to gain entry. Bottom line...tragic situation. If they sue I hope they lose and get chastised.
May 30, 201610 yr I wasn't aware we had so many trained gorilla experts here on BGP. We even got a Gator expert in post 36.
May 30, 201610 yr I just hope both parents of small children and zoos everywhere learn from this. Harambe was collateral damage and we humans all failed miserably.
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