Bernie Sanders camp on Donald Trump debate: 'We want this to happen' - POLITICO

Nevermind :no: just found this ...

 

Donald Trump offer to debate Bernie Sanders was just a joke, aide says | US news | The Guardian

I don't think it was a joke, possibly they didn't want it out there that Sanders refuses to debate him? I don't see Sanders doing this without wining the nomination. Hell, we had too many debates already. If we have 2, possibly three from here on out that would be more than enough.

Sounds like a ploy by the Trumpster: Fill up a big hall, "debate" on national TV (dare we speculate MSNBC?), lots of Trump playing Mr. Nice Guy with Bernie and his cause, then hope to snare Bernie's supporters when Hillary wins the nomination in Philly. Oh, Don also donates X million dollars to a women's charity to put him on the right track with the gals again.

 

What a weasel this guy is.

Sounds like a ploy by the Trumpster: Fill up a big hall, "debate" on national TV (dare we speculate MSNBC?), lots of Trump playing Mr. Nice Guy with Bernie and his cause, then hope to snare Bernie's supporters when Hillary wins the nomination in Philly. Oh, Don also donates X million dollars to a women's charity to put him on the right track with the gals again.

 

What a weasel this guy is.

 

You support Hillary Clinton and call Trump a weasel? :ohbrother:

Sounds like a ploy by the Trumpster: Fill up a big hall, "debate" on national TV (dare we speculate MSNBC?), lots of Trump playing Mr. Nice Guy with Bernie and his cause, then hope to snare Bernie's supporters when Hillary wins the nomination in Philly. Oh, Don also donates X million dollars to a women's charity to put him on the right track with the gals again.

 

What a weasel this guy is.

 

That is just good politics.

Sounds like a ploy by the Trumpster: Fill up a big hall, "debate" on national TV (dare we speculate MSNBC?), lots of Trump playing Mr. Nice Guy with Bernie and his cause, then hope to snare Bernie's supporters when Hillary wins the nomination in Philly. Oh, Don also donates X million dollars to a women's charity to put him on the right track with the gals again.

 

What a weasel this guy is.

 

Sounds like politics to me.

Would be a GREAT political move by Trump . Both the commie and Trump get to slam the eventual nominee of the socialist party , I mean the democrat party. On a huge huge platform . Weakens HC even more .

^ I agree that it would be good for Trump, as well as how it could very easy make tons of money on PPV as it would be must see tv! Regardless of what one thinks of her, Trump on the same stage as Warren would also be must see tv! Trump on the same stage with either of these two would be something everyone will remember the rest of their lives, but in the end would it really be a good thing? Yes it will be wild and full of fireworks, but it will also be a major slap to our civility.

 

I talked to someone in the know this morning, I was told that, yes, Sanders is discussing debating Trump, but not for the reasons people may think and not the reason his supporters would hope for. I was told that Sanders wants even more control over the DNC platform, he knows that he can't win the primary, in fact I was told that Sanders knew all along, and that he didn't even expect the large support that he is getting. But even with this unexpected support Sanders still has no desire to become president. His only goal was and still is to have control over the DNC platform, demanding such things to be included as $15 per hour minimum wage. Sanders is not getting everything he wants, and this talk about debating Trump is desperation, he is playing all of his cards in attempt to get the DNC to give him even more of what he wants. I was told that the DNC has been very generous to Sanders, but in a way he is acting like Trump, acting like an 8 year old, in Sanders case he is pouting because he is not getting everything that he wants, he wants it all! And as any adult knows, you must compromise on some things, even if you know that all of your ideas are the best ones, but it's called diplomacy, you are not going to get everything you want no matter what.

I'm not convinced this would be good for Trump. I think the less he is heard the better chance he has. Any undecideds - those who haven't ruled out HRC for her trust/legal issues and those who haven't ruled out Trump for his conspiracies, likability, trust, etc - will be looking for some sort of policy discussion and a grasp of issues. That doesn't bode well for Trump. He can't just keep yelling "wall/Muslims/rape/murder/Bill Clinton."

 

I'd be cautious. Bernie is very intelligent even if some of his proposed policies are from way out left. Donald doesn't want to get into a policy discussion with him.

On the other hand he may want to do it just to continue his lunatic rants about HRC murdering Foster, Bill raping women, Obama not being born in the US, Obama being a Muslim, Cruz' dad being involved in the JFK assassination, did I leave anything out?

 

That way you may cause a lot of people to just throw up their hands in disgust at both options and simply stay home. That would bode well for him.

 

The worst election in the HISTORY of the US.

I think Trump is no genius by any stretch but the old boy has done pretty well . I think he has enough clarity to tone it down when needed .

I'll just place this here. This morning I attempted to have civil conversations, debates, with two diehard Sanders supporters, it was impossible, it was like I was dealing with Trump in the flesh. However another Sanders supporters didn't want to have a civil polite discussion and it went very well. We even decided to include the other two Sanders supporters in for a Facebook group chat. It don't go well at all from the start, the other two Sanders supporters where so childish and rude that the civil Sanders supporter sent me a private message asking me to kick the other two out of the group chat, which I then did. Even she couldn't stand the other two! She described them perfectly, those two were 20 something, very likely that they have never voted before in their lives, and most likely wouldn't even go to the polls even if Sanders was the nominee, and that they were like the stereotypical Occupy Movement supporter. Now some may recall me talking about Occupy in the past. When Occupy started out it had GREAT principles, being against Wall Street corruption and non punishment of people on Wall Street who swindled billions of dollars from people and cause the 2008 financial crisis, as well as being against Wall Street and other money being involved in DC. BUT, Occupy quickly spiraled out of control and started to include any and all causes that anyone wanted to add. Hell, at their first march in Cincy you had a hard time trying to figure out what the demonstration was about, their was no focus on day one in Cincy, you had several people with signs to legalize marijuana, and same sec marriage, both of which I agree with 100%! But Occupy didn't start out about that stuff.

 

In Cincy the big advocate for the homeless, or story he as a homeowner said that was offensive, he said it's the "noiseless" (I am being 100% serious about him), he forced his agenda about the homeless, about the Anna Louis House. One from the beginning was all against Fifth Third Bank with never ends issues with them, BYW he was also a former Socialist candidate for US Senate in Ohio, I even butted heads with him many times. The guy was a nut!

 

After the first day of Occupy in Cincy I was ready to leave, but I stared to talk to one of the CPD officers who I was talking to that first day and he wanted me to meet up with his captain. Well shortly into this meeting with the two of them I had my first ever undercover assignment, I was to start a "security team" of Occupy members by convincing them that security was needed, as the homeless advocate wanted any and all homeless people to be welcomed with open arms to stay in the Occupy "camp", VERY BAD IDEA!

 

Well, that night I had a security team of 23 people, they all were to come to me with all the information I wanted. The main goal was to keep everyone safe, but the next goal was for me to get all of the information on all of the people who stepped foot into the camp and claimed that they were a supporter. The goal for me was to find out who might be the cause of possible trouble such as causing bodily harm and destruction of property, then in the very early morning hours I would sneak off a few blocks away and get into a cruiser, giving all information that I had on possible trouble makers.

 

The homeless advocate guy never ever spent the night in the camp yet forced the inclusion of any and all homeless people, seriously, the drop in center was losing homeless people to our camp, as word got around that not only was there an endless supply of donated food, but also it was a very safe area, as homeless shelters have a lot of safety issues and it's very bad at most of the time. But having all of these homeless caused so much trouble, I and a few others did the best that we could with them and consulting them, but if anyone knows about consoling and mental illnesses, you know how difficult it is to handle their problems.

 

The lady night of the camp in Cincy? A 17 year old male decided to walk a few blocks away with an older male to go to a store for cigarettes and he was fondled, then short after that at the same time that we were dealing with the issue of that 17 year old, a sleeping middle age lady was fondled in her private tent when a homeless person snuck in the back door (for some reason this tent had two entrances) and that guy fondled her and it woke her up, we did have him arrested. But an hour later myself and the main officer I dealt with convinced the caption to talk to Chief Craig to shut the camp down as it was too dangerous, and it was the next day.

 

Ok, sorry for the long BBFAN like post (sorry BBFAN lol).

 

But my point, I think, is that not all Sanders supporters are "loony", but Sanders is playing them acting like he seriously wants to become president when he only wants to force his agenda onto the DNC

I think Trump is no genius by any stretch but the old boy has done pretty well . I think he has enough clarity to tone it down when needed .

I've seen no evidence that Trump possesses the maturity to accomplish what you describe.

Donald Trump, mature leader of the free world.