April 10, 201610 yr And my Christian conscience allows me to obey the law and support it. Jesus said we had to obey laws made by man. You think Jesus would side with the "kick the illegals out" mantra when it comes to kids that made no choice to be here and have never known any other home?
April 10, 201610 yr Once again, what are the solutions? I mentioned a possible few in the first page. What efforts can the US take that can benefit the US and make the native countries more appealing for the immigrants to return back to? Also for the sake of playing devil's advocate... Welfare Use by Legal and Illegal Immigrant Households | Center for Immigration Studies
April 10, 201610 yr You think Jesus would side with the "kick the illegals out" mantra when it comes to kids that made no choice to be here and have never known any other home? I do not ever imagine what Jesus would think. He is the Jesus and I am not that intelligent or arrogant as to think I know what Jesus would think.
April 10, 201610 yr I've said this before.... The illegal Mexican folks I come in contact with regularly KNOW they are not suppose to be here. They use to try to stay out of sight, over the last 5 years they nolonger seem to care about being seen or caught. I'm for all the immigrants our country can accept after doing extensive background checks. How can any country have an open boarder allowing millions of people to simply walk in?
April 10, 201610 yr I do not ever imagine what Jesus would think. He is the Jesus and I am not that intelligent or arrogant as to think I know what Jesus would think. We will continue to agree to disagree, then. The Bible is full of stories of how Jesus reacted to situations and what he commands us to do. It is my interpretation that whether or not someone else has broken a law, my duty is help him or her. It is also my interpretation that children who made no choice to break a law should not be treated as those who do.
April 10, 201610 yr We will continue to agree to disagree, then. The Bible is full of stories of how Jesus reacted to situations and what he commands us to do. It is my interpretation that whether or not someone else has broken a law, my duty is help him or her. It is also my interpretation that children who made no choice to break a law should not be treated as those who do. Jesus told us to follow the laws of man also. You can paint it however you wish, you are for breaking the law if you don't agree with it. I don't agree with marijuana being against the law. Doesn't matter what I think, it is against the law.
April 10, 201610 yr I've said this before.... The illegal Mexican folks I come in contact with regularly KNOW they are not suppose to be here. They use to try to stay out of sight, over the last 5 years they nolonger seem to care about being seen or caught. I'm for all the immigrants our country can accept after doing extensive background checks. How can any country have an open boarder allowing millions of people to simply walk in? They can't and survive, particularly if they are the biggest target in the world. That's why we have to secure our borders first, then figure out what to do with people who are already here. have no problem with a path to citizenship if it involves some type of penalty for breaking the law in the first place. Don't make it so onerous that people will just stay underground. Figure out a way to discover who is not a threat (which is the overwhelming majority), and get rid of those who are.
April 10, 201610 yr Jesus told us to follow the laws of man also. You can paint it however you wish, you are for breaking the law if you don't agree with it. I don't agree with marijuana being against the law. Doesn't matter what I think, it is against the law. Just like I said in post 24, GUILTY. I will ask for forgiveness and continue to treat these kids with kindness, hope and understanding. I will also continue to vote for people that realize that these children did not decide to break a law and that their parents' decisions are not their own.
April 10, 201610 yr Just like I said in post 24, GUILTY. I will ask for forgiveness and continue to treat these kids with kindness, hope and understanding. I will also continue to vote for people that realize that these children did not decide to break a law and that their parents' decisions are not their own. Well-stated.
April 10, 201610 yr Just like I said in post 24, GUILTY. I will ask for forgiveness and continue to treat these kids with kindness, hope and understanding. I will also continue to vote for people that realize that these children did not decide to break a law and that their parents' decisions are not their own. Last numbers I saw there were over 11 million illegals, 1 million of them under 18. That leaves 10 million by my count.
April 10, 201610 yr Last numbers I saw there were over 11 million illegals, 1 million of them under 18. That leaves 10 million by my count. I don't doubt your numbers. I've been teaching 20 years and those from my first class, now almost 40, are still my "kids." The "kids" I speak of have only every known this as their home. The idea of sending them "home" to Mexico is absurd.
April 10, 201610 yr I don't doubt your numbers. I've been teaching 20 years and those from my first class, now almost 40, are still my "kids." The "kids" I speak of have only every known this as their home. The idea of sending them "home" to Mexico is absurd. That's fine, I'm just pointing out that your use of the word children has it's limits. Ten million are not children. I think few would share your idea that a 40 year old fits the term.
April 10, 201610 yr That's fine, I'm just pointing out that your use of the word children has it's limits. Ten million are not children. I think few would share your idea that a 40 year old fits the term. How many of those ten million were children when they were brought to the US? Those are the ones I am concerned with first.
April 10, 201610 yr How many of those ten million were children when they were brought to the US? Those are the ones I am concerned with first. And you obviously have every right to be, just as others have every right to see a 40 year old differently.
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