What we have here is a failure to communicate.

The world is transitioning from a paper, hands-on world that we oldsters knew and embrace, to a techno-cyber world, where everything we could possibly desire is on-line.

We are at a cross-roads, SO rather than jumping from the past, right into the future, there needs to be some transition.

 

IF they are going to discontinue the printed program, which they have, and we never expect to get it back, there could be a manila folder type handout (or minimal charge) that would contain the tournament brackets (which now no longer fall in chronological order) a brief history of past championship games, the leading scorer in said game, and the head coach. There could be local advertising on these. I'm sure that Barleycorn's would have jumped at an opportunity for each out-of-town fan to see a picture of their wings and directions to their eatery.

 

Enclosed in each of these "folders" would be a roster of each team participating THAT NIGHT (or DAY). In the old days many high school programs did this, provide a staple with a picture and roster of the home teams, and stick an insert of the visitors roster.

 

The sample Campbell County roster that Plantmanky provided a link to shows a total of 28 players. 14 of these players have numbers, but in actuality only 15 are permitted to dress. ALSO, I'm not sure where you found the rosters on the KHSAA site, but normally they are restricted to those with usernames/passwords.

 

In a few years we oldsters will have gone over the rainbow, and you newbies will rule the earth, running your life off of your smartphones, and depending on it for your existence. You will no longer remember carbon paper or pull-apart order forms. You will be unhappy unless you have over 100 channels to choose from, and will place your grocery shopping requests from home and pick it up without getting out of your car (Krogers). Restaurant menus will be the next thing to become extinct (Applebees). You already pay your bills without writing a check. You lock your doors from a distant city and are able to look in on the dog.

 

Your world will be a better place (I guess), but in the meantime until we unburden you with our presence, common sense needs to prevail. The basics need to still be provided, and our demeaning existences need to be tolerated. .

 

Why do you have to be spoon feed information that is readily available for anyone to look at on the KHSAA website. If you notice there is a program, with ad sales in it, all you have to do is go look at it. The roster I gave as an example is on the main girls basketball page, not hard to find.

 

Maybe if all you NKY teams would have spent the last couple months help the KHSAA with the event in your own back yard instead of going after Holy Cross you would have had a better event.

When you walk into Rupp Arena on Wednesday, there will be a myriad of "newsboys" hawking the Herald-Leader, that for $1 (or less) will have an insert. In that insert will be a story on each participating team, team rosters, tournament bracket, and some basic history of the event. With your purchase you will get a string of your team's colored beads. Each day thereafter there will be coverage of the previous days' games.

 

While I don't consider this a suitable substitute for the old printed program - AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING. At the Girls tournament the local papers had this same opportunity, but either didn't think to do it, or were simply uninterested. This would have provided us SOMETHING. INSTEAD WE GOT NOTHING but a cyber address.

 

They are uninterested because they are not long for this earth either. There was no money to be made on it and they will be extinct in the not too distant future.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

The world is transitioning from a paper, hands-on world that we oldsters knew and embrace, to a techno-cyber world, where everything we could possibly desire is on-line.

We are at a cross-roads, SO rather than jumping from the past, right into the future, there needs to be some transition.

 

IF they are going to discontinue the printed program, which they have, and we never expect to get it back, there could be a manila folder type handout (or minimal charge) that would contain the tournament brackets (which now no longer fall in chronological order) a brief history of past championship games, the leading scorer in said game, and the head coach. There could be local advertising on these. I'm sure that Barleycorn's would have jumped at an opportunity for each out-of-town fan to see a picture of their wings and directions to their eatery.

 

Enclosed in each of these "folders" would be a roster of each team participating THAT NIGHT (or DAY). In the old days many high school programs did this, provide a staple with a picture and roster of the home teams, and stick an insert of the visitors roster.

 

The sample Campbell County roster that Plantmanky provided a link to shows a total of 28 players. 14 of these players have numbers, but in actuality only 15 are permitted to dress. ALSO, I'm not sure where you found the rosters on the KHSAA site, but normally they are restricted to those with usernames/passwords.

 

In a few years we oldsters will have gone over the rainbow, and you newbies will rule the earth, running your life off of your smartphones, and depending on it for your existence. You will no longer remember carbon paper or pull-apart order forms. You will be unhappy unless you have over 100 channels to choose from, and will place your grocery shopping requests from home and pick it up without getting out of your car (Krogers). Restaurant menus will be the next thing to become extinct (Applebees). You already pay your bills without writing a check. You lock your doors from a distant city and are able to look in on the dog.

 

Your world will be a better place (I guess), but in the meantime until we unburden you with our presence, common sense needs to prevail. The basics need to still be provided, and our demeaning existences need to be tolerated. .

 

It's technology. And none of these are bad things, are they?? Again, everything you asked for was provided. Just not in a format that you like. You can either continue to complain, or you can get on board. Give it a shot....you'll figure it out pretty quickly, and may even come to enjoy it.

 

And by the way, I remember carbon paper, the days of 6 channels and no remote, and have written more than my fair share of checks.

In 40 years of going to the Boys Sweet Sixteen, I have yet to see a single opinion solicitated by the KHSAA concerning the "fan experience". I am sure they sent out a clear communication to all the NKy schools requesting their imput and assistance on putting on a great experience for the players, Teams, media and fans. Whoops! Now that was a stupid conclusion. Why would they do a pro-active, planning reachout like that? Not their objective perhaps? Throw the event together and then blame the blatant errors on anybody but the KHSAA. Ready, fire, aim!

For an area hosting the event for the very first time - I guess the casual fan is supposed to understand prior to the event that they needed to go to KHSAA website to obtain rosters? or can somebody please explain how they are supposed to realize that before hand? Is that common knowledge? or how they are supposed to understand that it can be accessed during the event.. There was nothing (that I saw) as you entered the arena on how / where / web address to go to obtain e-programs or that it was even an option for casual fan.. Especially since this area has never hosted a sweet 16 previously.. So it is not common knowledge and is actually rocket science..

For an area hosting the event for the very first time - I guess the casual fan is supposed to understand prior to the event that they needed to go to KHSAA website to obtain rosters? or can somebody please explain how they are stupposed to realize that before hand? Is that common knowledge? or how they are supposed to understand that it can be accessed during the event.. There was nothing (that I saw) as you entered the arena on how / where / web address to go to obtain e-programs or that it was even an option for casual fan.. Especially since this area has never hosted a sweet 16 previously.. So it is not common knowledge and is actually rocket science..

Thank you psj, thought this dinosaur, scumbag, rabid high school basketball fan was just too lazy, dumb, and technologically retarded to enjoy the "fan experience" of the Girls Sweet Sixteen. Glad to know there are a few more of us out there.

Maybe if all you NKY teams would have spent the last couple months help the KHSAA with the event in your own back yard instead of going after Holy Cross you would have had a better event.

 

Again, to you - and to everyone - what was wrong with the event?

Thank you psj, thought this dinosaur, scumbag, rabid high school basketball fan was just too lazy, dumb, and technologically retarded to enjoy the "fan experience" of the Girls Sweet Sixteen. Glad to know there are a few more of us out there.

 

Come on. YOU'VE used all those words to describe yourself. All I did was provide you a couple ways that the E-program could be used and some reasons why e-programs make sense and are preferred by many. Did the lack of a physical program really damage your experience to the point where the games were simply not enjoyable?? Again, I understand your point. And there's nothing wrong with your preference. Unfortunately, your preference isn't available anymore, hasn't been for a few years, and likely won't ever be available again (And for 99% of the high school basketball that are played, neither a printed program or an eProgram are available--pre game introductions are all you get). Which leaves you with two choices...get angry or go with the flow using the tips you've been given. Again to me, there's no difference between having your nose buried in your phone or having it buried in a printed program. Either way, there's still always going to be state championship basketball to watch and enjoy.

Again, to you - and to everyone - what was wrong with the event?

 

I can only go off of what those in this thread are posting, I was not at the event.

You are missing the point, you could have had the programs and the rosters, all you had to do was go print them. Not rocket science, they were available, you(and others) just choose to not take the steps needed to acquire what you wanted.

 

From the guy who always gets printer parts delivered to him by Lawnboy :lol2:

It is my understanding the KHSAA has the Girls Tourney in a locale which in turn becomes that City's responsibility to "sell" the tourney to their area. Bowling Green over the last several years has done a tremendous job selling it to Bowling Green and Warren County. NKY had the same opportunity and from the sound of things totally dropped the ball. No wonder it was only given a 2 year contract. My guess is Bowling Green will jump back into the picture when it comes up to re-bid for the Girls Sweet 16.

From the guy who always gets printer parts delivered to him by Lawnboy :lol2:

 

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