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E- programs.....yuk!

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You could have printed the rosters before hand. They are on the KHSAA website. Just cause you are lazy doesnt mean the KHSAA isnt doing what they need too.

 

Wow plantmanky, sorry you are so in-sensitive to us dinosaurs. Guess you missed that young whipper-snapper Mustang's post of trying to do just what you said and site would only print bottom half. FYI bought programs every year for 40 years; however spent last three winters in Florida. Great to be back, but will be lost at Rupp this week with no program.

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If the Internet goes down, these e-programs become a problem. The KHSAA cut a lot of things out, like not buying ads locally. The fact there was no program isn't a surprise. Printing costs are rising and that's a problem. Printing companies are putting themselves out of business by overcharging their customers. Now the KHSAA does not need to go with glossy paper and that would cut some costs, but welcome to the tech-driven who-cares-about-quality-and-customer-needs of the 21st century.

 

Got excited about having an Ale-8-One after the great promo on the scoreboard. Did anyone find a concessions that had it?

Got excited about having an Ale-8-One after the great promo on the scoreboard. Did anyone find a concessions that had it?

 

No. Another oversight by someone. lol

Wow plantmanky, sorry you are so in-sensitive to us dinosaurs. Guess you missed that young whipper-snapper Mustang's post of trying to do just what you said and site would only print bottom half. FYI bought programs every year for 40 years; however spent last three winters in Florida. Great to be back, but will be lost at Rupp this week with no program.

 

http://khsaa.org/basketball/girls/sweet16/2016/region10roster.pdf

 

click and print how hard is it?

If you want programs so bad, you and your peeps should have been buying them when they were around, no one was, hence why they stooped printing them. But keep blaming someone else.

 

Ah ha! Plant man must be the PR / marketing guy for the girls tourney this year.....

Ah ha! Plant man must be the PR / marketing guy for the girls tourney this year.....

 

Nope.

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Plantmanky, its a generational thing! We still know our multiplication tables, write in cursive that can't be read, take our hats off at the table (actally when we enter the house...but, that would not be understood), do not ignore those around us by burying our noses in our cellphones, and hate e-programs. But, like I said, the Boys Sweet Sixteen has been very successful because of the dinosaurs (as well as others) support over the yesrs. It is all about the "fan experience". Correction, it is 100% about the fan experience, and that includes players, families, Teams, schools, and the general public.

Plantmanky, its a generational thing! We still know our multiplication tables, write in cursive that can't be read, take our hats off at the table (actally when we enter the house...but, that would not be understood), do not ignore those around us by burying our noses in our cellphones, and hate e-programs. But, like I said, the Boys Sweet Sixteen has been very successful because of the dinosaurs (as well as others) support over the yesrs. It is all about the "fan experience". Correction, it is 100% about the fan experience, and that includes players, families, Teams, schools, and the general public.

 

You are missing the point, you could have had the programs and the rosters, all you had to do was go print them. Not rocket science, they were available, you(and others) just choose to not take the steps needed to acquire what you wanted.

Julian is a good guy. He wasn't happy about a lot of things this week and did not visit the buffet line as much as you might think. The problem of empty seats in the arena and the lack of community support was on his mind, but his own organization is at fault for its failure to publicize and promote the event. Hopefully next year the KHSAA will buy invest in buying a full-page ad in one of the newspapers up here and a couple of TV ads.

 

A full page ad in the Enquirer is the equivalent of tossing your money out of a moving vehicle. Very expensive, and with circulation down to around 100k for the entire Cincinnati area, you're simply not going to drive very much traffic. If full page ads in the newspaper were the answer, the Enquirer wouldn't have shrunk the format a few years ago. And TV is even more expensive fragmented in viewership. When you're dealing with a niche group (in this case girl's high school basketball fans), building awareness doesn't mean much....the real fans already know and will be there regardless. Convincing the rest of the general public to do something they are not interested in is much more complicated than buying expensive ads in a dying medium (newspapers) and an extremely fragmented medium (TV)

Plantmanky, its a generational thing! We still know our multiplication tables, write in cursive that can't be read, take our hats off at the table (actally when we enter the house...but, that would not be understood), do not ignore those around us by burying our noses in our cellphones, and hate e-programs. But, like I said, the Boys Sweet Sixteen has been very successful because of the dinosaurs (as well as others) support over the yesrs. It is all about the "fan experience". Correction, it is 100% about the fan experience, and that includes players, families, Teams, schools, and the general public.

 

Is there really a difference in what you're burying your nose in?? Is burying your nose in a printed program better or different than burying your nose in a cellphone??

 

Again, the trend everywhere is digital. And it's that way for a reason. It's cheaper, easier to use, store and access. And for the vast majority, digital is a better fan experience.

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You are missing the point, you could have had the programs and the rosters, all you had to do was go print them. Not rocket science, they were available, you(and others) just choose to not take the steps needed to acquire what you wanted.

 

First ever girls Sweet Sixteen, never knew in advance of these draconian cuts in the fan's experience. Would never have guessed and saw zero marketing of the event. BB&T staff could not direct me to the site. If there was signage, I feel good that no one in the Murray section saw it either.

 

KHSAA needs a SWOT analysis before blindly repeating this years mistakes. Great participating teams, great games, kids and coaches can't do anymore. KHSAA's leadership missed the ball badly and owes everyone a better effort.

I say put it back on the qualifying schools. Make it a school credit thing for the students. Have the schools put together small media guide that can be given away and allow them to man a table during their time slots. Anyone that would like one, stop by and pick one up. Have roster on one side and schedule / results on other or whatever else they would like to include about the team or the school..

A full page ad in the Enquirer is the equivalent of tossing your money out of a moving vehicle. Very expensive, and with circulation down to around 100k for the entire Cincinnati area, you're simply not going to drive very much traffic. If full page ads in the newspaper were the answer, the Enquirer wouldn't have shrunk the format a few years ago. And TV is even more expensive fragmented in viewership. When you're dealing with a niche group (in this case girl's high school basketball fans), building awareness doesn't mean much....the real fans already know and will be there regardless. Convincing the rest of the general public to do something they are not interested in is much more complicated than buying expensive ads in a dying medium (newspapers) and an extremely fragmented medium (TV)

 

Any pub is good pub. The KHSAA did not even attempt to make deals (signage for full page ad, TV spots, etc.) they could have had for free from newspapers up here and TV stations. Someone would bite. I know newspapers are dying, but getting 100k people looking at it is a good piece of PR. Same with TV and 1 million potential viewers in this area. As is, there was nothing to promote the event in the media.

First ever girls Sweet Sixteen, never knew in advance of these draconian cuts in the fan's experience. Would never have guessed and saw zero marketing of the event. BB&T staff could not direct me to the site. If there was signage, I feel good that no one in the Murray section saw it either.

 

KHSAA needs a SWOT analysis before blindly repeating this years mistakes. Great participating teams, great games, kids and coaches can't do anymore. KHSAA's leadership missed the ball badly and owes everyone a better effort.

 

KHSAA.ORG is not that hard to find, everything is there, everything has been there for years. If this was your first Sweet Sixteen it should be the first place you would have looked.

Any pub is good pub. The KHSAA did not even attempt to make deals (signage for full page ad, TV spots, etc.) they could have had for free from newspapers up here and TV stations. Someone would bite. I know newspapers are dying, but getting 100k people looking at it is a good piece of PR. Same with TV and 1 million potential viewers in this area. As is, there was nothing to promote the event in the media.

 

In another thread I posted that you have to remember Title IX plays a part in this. What KHSAA does for one tournament, they have to do (in similarity) for all tournaments. So if they take a full page ad for Basketball, they have to do it for all other tournaments they host.

 

On the surface you would ask ok, why wouldn't the do that. When you think about the cost benefit across the board, probably no where near worth it.

 

Have to look at the whole picture.

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