March 12, 201610 yr And you don't remember the huge ballot brouhaha that "supposedly " occurred in Chicago and St. Louis? Conspiracy Theories? It's too easy to believe the worst if you don't care for the person to begin with. See how damaging gossip is? Last night's debacle could become that so easily. There is definitely a lot of gossip out there today. GW didn't steal the election, but he won without the popular vote which didn't sit well with over half the nation. Not to mention he had 8 horrendous years thrusting us into a nation-building war and a huge recession.
March 12, 201610 yr Hears? I watched it. Facts are facts. Trump has created this animal. Now he has to deal with it. You can't divide people and advocate violence without backlash. Backlash is here. Your question is moot. They don't speak the way Big Donald does so people will not take initiative to risk arrest or assault from their supporters. Disagree. Bernie makes outlandish statements about free everything with no way to pay for it. Hillary lied, continues to lie and won't answer questions about being investigated by the FBI. The question remains, is it OK if anyone protests in this manner at their appearances? Or, is only OK to do it a Trump rally.
March 12, 201610 yr Author I am convinced there is not a human being alive that can unite our country - we are just divided to a point that I just don't see any way of being united again in my lifetime...and I am 52. We actually have many liberals who are fine with denying free speech to others...they are tolerant as long as you agree with them. If not, they feel they have the right to silence you...scary stuff. This has been going on at college campuses for quite some time (remember Condi Rice being disinvited to a college because some students complained?). Conservative speakers are often disrupted when they speak or flat out not allowed to speak at universities. Now we have the AG of the US (Lynch) actually saying that they are looking at targeting "climate change deniers" for possible criminal charges. Now that is about as scary a thing as I have heard about for some time... Back to the rally...this may very well help Trump. We will learn a lot about whether it does on Tuesday. You know people are getting very scared of him right now when they start doing this kind of stuff...and I don't mean the actual protestors...most of them are just pawns paid for...I mean the George Soros types.
March 12, 201610 yr Disagree. Bernie makes outlandish statements about free everything with no way to pay for it. Hillary lied, continues to lie and won't answer questions about being investigated by the FBI. The question remains, is it OK if anyone protests in this manner at their appearances? Or, is only OK to do it a Trump rally. Bernie actually answers the questions about how he will pay for things. His math is better than many of those on the Repub side who promise tax cuts and debt reduction. You are talking FBI questioning I doubt those things come up in her speeches and few people besides you fellas on here are so incensed about it to disrupt a rally. It is not ok, but if you yell fire get ready for the repercussions. Trump teeters the line of racism and bigotry and some people love it and those offended hate it, so you get the fire and intensity you ask for when you address those issue so insensitively. No other candidate does, so they don't have these problems.
March 12, 201610 yr If You (conservatives) don't like the names don't be racist, sexist, (insert -ist word). Kind of naive to believe that these issues don't exist, and we need to go back the good ol' days. Good ol' days weren't great for a portion of the population. In some instances the good ol' days were oppressive, so you (conservatives) may not like it but times are-a-changing: Women have turned into the primary breadwinners and within this century white America will no longer be a majority and that's just to name a few. The fact that Trump is your (conservatives) BACKLASH says it all because from what he has given us he is the definition of any -ist you want to label him. I can't see people aren't going to just accept his message of returning to the good ol' days. What a load of :poop:. The Democrats have promised those in poverty for years that they will give them more, more, more, while keeping their foot on their head to keep them down. Pretty much keeps a voting block in place. The Democratic Party is as "ist" as anyone on the Right.
March 12, 201610 yr Bernie actually answers the questions about how he will pay for things. His math is better than many of those on the Repub side who promise tax cuts and debt reduction. You are talking FBI questioning I doubt those things come up in her speeches and few people besides you fellas on here are so incensed about it to disrupt a rally. It is not ok, but if you yell fire get ready for the repercussions. Trump teeters the line of racism and bigotry and some people love it and those offended hate it, so you get the fire and intensity you ask for when you address those issue so insensitively. No other candidate does, so they don't have these problems. You say it's not OK but defend it. :ohbrother: No, I don't buy it that you are just "explaining it". You are defending it.
March 12, 201610 yr And you don't remember the huge ballot brouhaha that "supposedly " occurred in Chicago and St. Louis? Conspiracy Theories? It's too easy to believe the worst if you don't care for the person to begin with. See how damaging gossip is? Last night's debacle could become that so easily. There is definitely a lot of gossip out there today. No. I don't recall those. I remember Florida having issues in 2000 and Ohio having issues in 2012 maybe. Other than that I don't remember any voting conspiracy theories.
March 12, 201610 yr Author Bernie actually answers the questions about how he will pay for things. His math is better than many of those on the Repub side who promise tax cuts and debt reduction. You are talking FBI questioning I doubt those things come up in her speeches and few people besides you fellas on here are so incensed about it to disrupt a rally. It is not ok, but if you yell fire get ready for the repercussions. Trump teeters the line of racism and bigotry and some people love it and those offended hate it, so you get the fire and intensity you ask for when you address those issue so insensitively. No other candidate does, so they don't have these problems. First bolded...are you kidding me? Bernie has not in any way said how he will pay for giving EVERYONE FREE COLLEGE that makes any sense besides increasing our debt by another $10 trillion or so. Second bolded...there are millions of Americans (mostly R's) that are truly incensed by Clinton's email scandal. There are MANY people (me included) that want her in jail. Conservatives typically don't disrupt liberals speeches and rallies. Conservatives believe in free speech much more than liberals...I dislike Clinton personally and Obama's policies about as much as anybody but firmly believe they have the right to speak and be heard.
March 12, 201610 yr If You (conservatives) don't like the names don't be racist, sexist, (insert -ist word). Kind of naive to believe that these issues don't exist, and we need to go back the good ol' days. Good ol' days weren't great for a portion of the population. In some instances the good ol' days were oppressive, so you (conservatives) may not like it but times are-a-changing: Women have turned into the primary breadwinners and within this century white America will no longer be a majority and that's just to name a few. The fact that Trump is your (conservatives) BACKLASH says it all because from what he has given us he is the definition of any -ist you want to label him. I can't see people aren't going to just accept his message of returning to the good ol' days. What time frame in history are you referencing? Those good old days?
March 12, 201610 yr Disagree. Bernie makes outlandish statements about free everything with no way to pay for it. Hillary lied, continues to lie and won't answer questions about being investigated by the FBI. The question remains, is it OK if anyone protests in this manner at their appearances? Or, is only OK to do it a Trump rally. But people do protest at Bernie and Hillary rallies. At the same time, Trump supporters at his rallies have been violent on more than one occasion so it seems to me that violence is more the norm at Trump rallies than anywhere else. Why is it when Trump supporters at his rallies are violent it is okay but when protestors get violent at Trump rallies it is an issue?
March 12, 201610 yr Nope. You liberals have been name-calling since the days of Reagan (& probably before). Bingo. The name calling wasn't new but the growth of cable made it easier to hear about them. That and talk radio enabled the republicans to fire back, the liberals didn't like that as they had enjoyed a media monopoly up to that point with far fewer avenues for the republicans to be heard. Combine that with an overall downward spiral in every day respect among people and it's been going downhill ever since.
March 12, 201610 yr Author But people do protest at Bernie and Hillary rallies. At the same time, Trump supporters at his rallies have been violent on more than one occasion so it seems to me that violence is more the norm at Trump rallies than anywhere else. Why is it when Trump supporters at his rallies are violent it is okay but when protestors get violent at Trump rallies it is an issue? I don't think the people protesting at Bernie's rallies are conservatives... I think they were BLM folks who last time I checked are not conservative. IMO, it is not OK for ANYONE to get violent at a rally...whether it be Trump protestors or supporters. I also think the protestors should be kept out of the rally itself (for any rally). If you want to protest outside, fine. However, if your goal is to make it so Trump...or ANY candidate...cannot speak or be heard, that is where I draw the line.
March 12, 201610 yr I don't think the people protesting at Bernie's rallies are conservatives... I think they were BLM folks who last time I checked are not conservative. IMO, it is not OK for ANYONE to get violent at a rally...whether it be Trump protestors or supporters. I also think the protestors should be kept out of the rally itself (for any rally). If you want to protest outside, fine. However, if your goal is to make it so Trump...or ANY candidate...cannot speak or be heard, that is where I draw the line. Protestors at rallies are still protestors at rallies. Doesn't matter if they are left, right or BLM. Their aim is to disrupt. There have been protestors for those three candidates for sure. The question was is it okay to protest like this at Trump's rallies only when the fact is that people have protested like that at Bernie and Hillary rallies.
March 12, 201610 yr But people do protest at Bernie and Hillary rallies. At the same time, Trump supporters at his rallies have been violent on more than one occasion so it seems to me that violence is more the norm at Trump rallies than anywhere else. Why is it when Trump supporters at his rallies are violent it is okay but when protestors get violent at Trump rallies it is an issue? It is not OK for any protesters to get violent or disruptive at any rally. I'm wondering why many on the Left are condoning the ones last night at the Trump rally.
March 12, 201610 yr It is not OK for any protesters to get violent or disruptive at any rally. I'm wondering why many on the Left are condoning the ones last night at the Trump rally. Because they are fed up and want to make America great again.
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