The moral of the story is that you don't know what kind of coach a person is without:

A. Seeing them coach, preferably in practice

B. Knowing what to look for, besides "hey, they have really good players"

The Admiral himself, Sam Harp.

 

#AnchorsAway :thumb:

The Admiral himself, Sam Harp.

 

Matter of fact, to extend on those little tidbits of info.....not only did they have a win percentage of 41% w/ no playoff wins, but that record spans over about 20 years of prior experience and maybe only 2-3 were winning seasons (and, that might be a high guess).

 

Hi Ho Silver Away.

All those guys had jimmies and joes and I think we will all agree if you going to win titles you better have them. We will see I hope the guy does good, I am just saying typical Lexington hiring a teacher first other than getting a coach 1st and finding him a job. I also think we would all agree if Lexington ever took athletics serious the entire state better look out and that includes T and X!

What if I told you that there are three coaches in this state (two of which are still active in, one coaching in another) that had a combined record of 89-124 (41% winning percentage) at their first jobs, with no playoff wins at those schools....but, now collectively own 15 state titles between the three of them?

That would tell me what I already know. Players and support has a lot more to do with winning than who is wearing the head coaching hat.

Players win games bottom line!!!!!

Ty is not at his first school

Ty is not at his first school

 

Correct. I was referring to the results of he and the other two in their first jobs. His first job was at Doss (as you know); Wallace was at Warren East and Harp was at Calloway County.

Players win games bottom line!!!!!

 

Players can win games, great coaches can win just as many games.

 

I can't even begin to count the games I've seen where teams were running an offense or defense that they just couldn't execute. If that's an Air Raid with weak QB play, Wing-T with no real direction on the o-line, or a defense that's a 4-2-5 and have almost no athletes on the field.

 

And in that same breath, I've seen coaches put average-at-best kids in great positions to compete with and beat teams with better talent. They've been able to out execute other teams who just try to get by on athleticism.

 

Great coaching can make up for not great players, to a certain point. And great players can make up for average coaching, to a certain point.

 

In high school football, there are a lot of things that go into winning a game, not just players.

 

I can think of several games where a team had a roster full of potential college players, and they lost to teams with 1 or 2, tops.

#AnchorsAway :thumb:

 

It is actually Anchors Aweigh. Lol When an anchor is "aweigh" it is clear of the sea-bottom, meaning the ship is prepared to move. Couldn't matter less, I just thought that it might be interesting.

Players can win games, great coaches can win just as many games.

 

I can't even begin to count the games I've seen where teams were running an offense or defense that they just couldn't execute. If that's an Air Raid with weak QB play, Wing-T with no real direction on the o-line, or a defense that's a 4-2-5 and have almost no athletes on the field.

 

And in that same breath, I've seen coaches put average-at-best kids in great positions to compete with and beat teams with better talent. They've been able to out execute other teams who just try to get by on athleticism.

 

Great coaching can make up for not great players, to a certain point. And great players can make up for average coaching, to a certain point.

 

In high school football, there are a lot of things that go into winning a game, not just players.

 

I can think of several games where a team had a roster full of potential college players, and they lost to teams with 1 or 2, tops.

 

Nice post. The yin and yang of players and coaches is +/- around 50%.

I don't think anyone wins a state title without great HIGH SCHOOL football players! You don't have to be a college player to be a great high school football player. One of the best players I ever saw was a 5'7 155 pound 4.9 forty kid that when the lights came on he was the best player on the field on both teams BUT no one offered him anything cause at the college level he couldn't have done it. I do believe great coaches can take average talent and win games but I aint going to say they win state titles without them. And I do believe average coaches can win a BUNCH of games with a bunch of great players. How many of you think ole Beeeelicheck would have won all those games if he didn't have maybe the best qb of all time????

Players can win games, great coaches can win just as many games.

 

I can't even begin to count the games I've seen where teams were running an offense or defense that they just couldn't execute. If that's an Air Raid with weak QB play, Wing-T with no real direction on the o-line, or a defense that's a 4-2-5 and have almost no athletes on the field.

 

And in that same breath, I've seen coaches put average-at-best kids in great positions to compete with and beat teams with better talent. They've been able to out execute other teams who just try to get by on athleticism.

 

Great coaching can make up for not great players, to a certain point. And great players can make up for average coaching, to a certain point.

 

In high school football, there are a lot of things that go into winning a game, not just players.

 

I can think of several games where a team had a roster full of potential college players, and they lost to teams with 1 or 2, tops.

 

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Seconded

Seconded

 

Third that!!!