January 5, 201610 yr I've rolled these situations over in my head a thousand times and I can't understand it. How did perfectly decent, perfectly reasonable men manage to overlook or ignore what was going on right in front of them? If they didn't overlook it, what caused them to keep putting these guys in charge of parishes? Even knowing what I do about how our own legal system is set up to fail these victims, I still can't wrap my head around it. Not sure where the quote originated, but a paraphrase.....bad people will always do bad, good people will do good, but to get good people to do bad things, you need religion. Probably not an entirely true statement, but likely has some bearing on this matter. Hard to imagine, as you say, perfectly decent and reasonable people covering the abuses up for anything other than religion. No other group or organization could claim the importance and worth necessary to enable good people to look the other way.
January 5, 201610 yr Not sure where the quote originated, but a paraphrase.....bad people will always do bad, good people will do good, but to get good people to do bad things, you need religion. Probably not an entirely true statement, but likely has some bearing on this matter. Hard to imagine, as you say, perfectly decent and reasonable people covering the abuses up for anything other than religion. No other group or organization could claim the importance and worth necessary to enable good people to look the other way. St. John Chrysostom said that the floor of hell is carpeted with the skulls of priests. Reports of the moral failings of clergy, from parish priests to princes of the Church, continue to embarrass the Church and discourage the faithful, and they remind us of our obligation to pray for priests, for their sake, and for the sake of those whose lives they touch for better or for ill, the seen and the unseen.
January 5, 201610 yr At the end when they have he graphics telling the actual facts of what happened after the story "broke" in the Globe they had a graphic that showed every city that had a "major abuse" case. It just kept going and going and going. I actually teared up simply due to the volume of abuse. This. Even after I thought they were done, there were pages and pages that kept rolling on. Brutally saddening.
January 6, 201610 yr I can't watch the movie being Catholic . Simple as that. Sad moment in my life as an otherwise proud Catholic. But I won't let such a small amount of people ruin it for me.
June 29, 201610 yr Spotlight is now on Netflix. Started it late Sunday night then realized it was over 2 hours long...will wait and watch it this weekend.
June 29, 201610 yr I saw the movie in the theater but never posted in the thread. I'm another Catholic who was slapped in the face by reality. I think that is a good thing every once in a while. I don't have an answer, but it's literally sickening. The more I think about the many acts and the cover up, I swear my stomach starts to hurt. Still, it was a really good movie and I think it deserved the awards it won. For me, it reminded me of the atrocities, but it wasn't exactly new news. I also didn't feel the movie was preachy. Probably the highest praise I can give is that I knew the entire story yet was completely engrossed the entire time. I felt like the actors that portrayed the actual "spotlight" team did a fantastic job coming across as real people.
June 29, 201610 yr Author I saw the movie in the theater but never posted in the thread. I'm another Catholic who was slapped in the face by reality. I think that is a good thing every once in a while. I don't have an answer, but it's literally sickening. The more I think about the many acts and the cover up, I swear my stomach starts to hurt. Still, it was a really good movie and I think it deserved the awards it won. For me, it reminded me of the atrocities, but it wasn't exactly new news. I also didn't feel the movie was preachy. Probably the highest praise I can give is that I knew the entire story yet was completely engrossed the entire time. I felt like the actors that portrayed the actual "spotlight" team did a fantastic job coming across as real people. Agreed on every point you made.
July 2, 201610 yr Awesome cast. The movie was pretty good, despite the sickening material unearthed. It needed to be put "in the spotlight" though. Be careful about who you're getting tootsie rolls from...
July 5, 201610 yr I think people are simply upset that he's still there at all after his involvement in the cover-up.Which to me seems like a very fair reason to be upset.
July 6, 201610 yr No telling how long this will remain viewable on Youtube before they yank it, but here's the entire Spotlight movie with no bullcrap redirects to another site. It was first posted on May 11th, and so far has managed to stick around until now. [video=youtube;C0PXML0-P_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PXML0-P_I
July 6, 201610 yr Here's a website that was started in 2003 with a huge database of ongoing and ever growing information related to this topic. You can search by state and specific dioceses throughout the whole country for a listing of all priests and nuns accused and/or convicted of child molestation with details of their case. It's a pretty extensive site with tons of information. The home page is a bit overwhelming at first glance with all of the information available, but pretty eye opening once you start digging around. BishopAccountability.org - Documenting the Catholic Sexual Abuse and Financial Crisis - Data on bishops, priests, brothers, nuns, Pope Francis, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, CDF, Terence McKiernan, Anne Barrett Doyle
February 7, 20179 yr Finally got around to watching this movie last night and thought it was extremely well done. These are the types of movies that I find extremely interesting. So sad though. The line that Mark Ruffalo had regarding Nazis really stuck out to me. Not comparing Catholics clergy to them by any means, but just the mentality of going along with something that isn't right. My father-in-law refuses to watch it, as many of you have said. I get that, but missing out on a very good movie.
February 7, 20179 yr The scene where the priests admits to Rachel McAdams' character that he fooled around with boys was chilling.
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