January 7, 201610 yr Also it wasn't like the dismissed juror left and all of a sudden it was a guilty verdict. They deliberated for 20+ hours, I'm pretty sure. He was in deliberations for 22 hours before leaving. He clearly states that it was 7 innocent, 3 guilty (2 who were adament about it...can you guess who they were?) and 2 unsure. Even if the other 2 said guilty that is 7 - 5. Take his vote away and exchange it with a new juror who says guilty. Still, 7-6. Someone had their mind changed and I am quite sure why. Those deliberation rooms can get really nasty after people have been holed up for days.
January 7, 201610 yr No but they had a lot to lose if that lawsuit was paid out, including their jobs. Do you know that or are you assuming?
January 7, 201610 yr He was in deliberations for 22 hours before leaving. He clearly states that it was 7 innocent, 3 guilty (2 who were adament about it...can you guess who they were?) and 2 unsure. Even if the other 2 said guilty that is 7 - 5. Take his vote away and exchange it with a new juror who says guilty. Still, 7-6. Someone had their mind changed and I am quite sure why. Those deliberation rooms can get really nasty after people have been holed up for days. The juror I was thinking of left deliberations during the first day.
January 7, 201610 yr Finished episode 7 tonight. Hate reading about the show because I learn bits and pieces so I'm removing myself from this thread again until we finish the series...which will probably be tomorrow night.
January 7, 201610 yr Finished the first two tonight and starting 3 now. Really disturbing stuff. Some of this is really unbelievable. I'm just baffled by Brendan's "confession". The kid had no clue what was going on. Edited January 7, 201610 yr by HammerTime
January 7, 201610 yr Some of this is really unbelievable. I'm just baffled by Brendan's "confession". The kid had no clue what was going on. You should watch the entire interview. While they do feed him some things, some things he comes out with on his own. I'm not sure what to believe though. The interview his attorney allowed without being present is ridiculous though.
January 7, 201610 yr Not done with it yet but so far I feel the police framed a potentially guilty man. I see serious problems with the way the police investigated and with the justice system in this case.
January 7, 201610 yr Author Matt Jones has a podcast with a Louisville defense attorney talking about this. I thought it was really good perspective. The Matt Jones Podcast: E02 Making a Murderer | Kentucky Sports Radio
January 7, 201610 yr You should watch the entire interview. While they do feed him some things, some things he comes out with on his own. I'm not sure what to believe though. The interview his attorney allowed without being present is ridiculous though. Once I'm finished I'd like to go back and do that. Agreed on the second point. That fact that he was doing that without his attorney is crazy.
January 7, 201610 yr Once I'm finished I'd like to go back and do that. Agreed on the second point. That fact that he was doing that without his attorney is crazy. The fact that his attorney set up the interview is crazy. Although his original attorney had a deal in place for him to plea to 20 years. He probably would have been out in less than that... Maybe he had the best idea?
January 11, 201610 yr The fact that his attorney set up the interview is crazy. Although his original attorney had a deal in place for him to plea to 20 years. He probably would have been out in less than that... Maybe he had the best idea? I didn't like that first lawyer at all. Why would his investigator spend a majority of his time proving his clients guilt and forcing a confession.
January 11, 201610 yr I bet it took several days. All those extra facts are interesting' date=' but none explain why there is zero blood evidence in his trailer or garage. I'm only 6 episodes in though.[/quote'] I think Avery's trial took six weeks and Dassey's took two.
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