December 12, 201510 yr So you fellas think if Trump runs independent and the repubs send in (fill in the blank) and Hillary for Dems, Trump will pull enough from both sides to win? I guess stranger things have happened, but I could see Dems going to a moderate independent, but jumping the far right Trump seems a little unlikely. I've talked to many Dems that say they may just forget to vote for POTUS. Many Dems I have talked with WOULD vote for Rubio. Many Dems and Repubs alike have told me we need a POTUS not named Bush or Clinton.
December 12, 201510 yr You said no polls showed a Republican beating Hillary. Hate and bigotry has worked for the Dems for years. The evil white man, the evil pro gun crowd, the evil right hates women. Lie after lie. What the problem with the Repub establishment isn't that they don't think Trump can win, they are afraid he can and they can't control him. It is hard to believe people can fall for this white man victim syndrome. Just amazing! I was not clear, but I did mean national polls, thanks for pointing that out, though. As usual, we have nowhere near the same mindset.
December 12, 201510 yr It is hard to believe people can fall for this white man victim syndrome. Just amazing! I was not clear, but I did mean national polls, thanks for pointing that out, though. As usual, we have nowhere near the same mindset. The Real Clear Politics Poll is a national poll. Showed Rubio beating her on 12/11/15. That would be yesterday. I didn't say I agreed with what the Dems run on, I was pointing out that is what they run on. To say any different is naive. You are correct about the mindset. I am a realist.
December 12, 201510 yr I try to watch from afar and be objective about it. I have noticed a shift where most of the Republicans are attacking Trump almost as if there has been some recent collusion. Still, Trump is a maybe. I think Ben Carson lost his mojo. And it is looking more and more like Hillary is going to win because the Republican Party can't get out of their own way.
December 12, 201510 yr The Real Clear Politics Poll is a national poll. Showed Rubio beating her on 12/11/15. That would be yesterday. I didn't say I agreed with what the Dems run on, I was pointing out that is what they run on. To say any different is naive. You are correct about the mindset. I am a realist. The most overused word to describe one's self. Almost everyone thinks they are a realist. There are many who cannot see both sides to any issue thinks those who disagree are naive. What poll shows any Republican winning enough Electoral votes to win the Presidency? There may be one, maybe I missed it. Don't deflect from the real problems the Republicans have, not necessarily having a good candidate, but not being able to come close to agreeing on one. Dems run on social justices, balanced budgeting, inclusive equality, taxes that are fairly implemented.
December 12, 201510 yr The most overused word to describe one's self. Almost everyone thinks they are a realist. There are many who cannot see both sides to any issue thinks those who disagree are naive. What poll shows any Republican winning enough Electoral votes to win the Presidency? There may be one, maybe I missed it. Don't deflect from the real problems the Republicans have, not necessarily having a good candidate, but not being able to come close to agreeing on one. Dems run on social justices, balanced budgeting, inclusive equality, taxes that are fairly implemented. If only Bill could run again.
December 12, 201510 yr The most overused word to describe one's self. Almost everyone thinks they are a realist. There are many who cannot see both sides to any issue thinks those who disagree are naive. What poll shows any Republican winning enough Electoral votes to win the Presidency? There may be one, maybe I missed it. Don't deflect from the real problems the Republicans have, not necessarily having a good candidate, but not being able to come close to agreeing on one. Dems run on social justices, balanced budgeting, inclusive equality, taxes that are fairly implemented. In your opinion it's the most overused description. Not deflecting anything. There are problems you aren't seeing or are dismissing. As to what is in bold, and demonizing the other side for not, in their opinion.
December 12, 201510 yr In your opinion it's the most overused description. Not deflecting anything. There are problems you aren't seeing or are dismissing. As to what is in bold, and demonizing the other side for not, in their opinion. That's your opinion not there's. Keep deflecting
December 12, 201510 yr That's your opinion not there's. Keep deflecting Exactly what am I deflecting? Each side demonizes the other. That's a fact. I stated what the Left demonized the Right over. I think the Repubs don't want Trump because they can't control him. I stated that earlier. I want Rubio. I think he can beat Hillary. He should use some of the Left's tactics and point out she just an old white woman.
December 12, 201510 yr Author Exactly what am I deflecting? Each side demonizes the other. That's a fact. I stated what the Left demonized the Right over. I think the Repubs don't want Trump because they can't control him. I stated that earlier. I want Rubio. I think he can beat Hillary. He should use some of the Left's tactics and point out she just an old white woman. He can't beat Hillary if Trump runs as an independent. Trump will crush any chance of Republicans. My question is would Carson run as another independent? Cap, I don't doubt you talk to Dems that hate Obama and Hillary because I also talk to some of the same people, but that's not the majority and those people live in red states that are already decided. National Dems are true blue.
December 12, 201510 yr Exactly what am I deflecting? Each side demonizes the other. That's a fact. I stated what the Left demonized the Right over. I think the Repubs don't want Trump because they can't control him. I stated that earlier. I want Rubio. I think he can beat Hillary. He should use some of the Left's tactics and point out she just an old white woman. I agree Rubio is the only one I think can, don't think he will, though. He only has the Cuban Latino vote at this time, but that is a start. His problem is he can't spend allof his time going after Trump. He may have to. I don't think most demonize the other. They certainly disagree and are critical, but I would not call that demonizing. Have a good night, heading out to see Spectre, hope it is good.
December 13, 201510 yr The most overused word to describe one's self. Almost everyone thinks they are a realist. There are many who cannot see both sides to any issue thinks those who disagree are naive. What poll shows any Republican winning enough Electoral votes to win the Presidency? There may be one, maybe I missed it. Don't deflect from the real problems the Republicans have, not necessarily having a good candidate, but not being able to come close to agreeing on one. Dems run on social justices, balanced budgeting, inclusive equality, taxes that are fairly implemented. This had to be a typo. Balanced budget?? Huh???
December 13, 201510 yr The most overused word to describe one's self. Almost everyone thinks they are a realist. There are many who cannot see both sides to any issue thinks those who disagree are naive. What poll shows any Republican winning enough Electoral votes to win the Presidency? There may be one, maybe I missed it. Don't deflect from the real problems the Republicans have, not necessarily having a good candidate, but not being able to come close to agreeing on one. Dems run on social justices, balanced budgeting, inclusive equality, taxes that are fairly implemented. That is the funniest thing I have read on here. They really run on wealth redistribution and handouts. Say they are helping the poor, and only say so to get their votes.
December 13, 201510 yr This had to be a typo. Balanced budget?? Huh??? The last President with a balanced budget was Bill Clinton in 2001.
December 13, 201510 yr The last President with a balanced budget was Bill Clinton in 2001. Enough with the facts, now.
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