June 26, 200620 yr On a sidenote: Gunner GREAT AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the doctor! and that CBA ball.
June 26, 200620 yr Author So, what I am hearing it is wrong to limit the competition for kids based on what school they attend, but okay to limit competition for kids based on their age in NON-CONTACT sports. If a kid can shoot a 38 on the golf course from the appropriate tees why in the world does it matter whether they are 8 or 18? This position seems to be a little inconsistent for you guys. Why can't my son/daughter compete on the golf course and why do you want to limit their experiences? So what if a 11-year old can drill a 18-year old on the course, tennis courts or cross country. I keep hearing over and over that it is NOT right to limit a kids choices and the parents can/should do that. Same thing here. If a parent can make the best choice for a child's education (and I agree with that) then a parent should be able to make the best choice on whether a kid can physically compete or not. Be consistent. All Tell I agree that there will be some coaches that will take advantage of the situation. As there are some coaches that take advantage of their school's position and recruiting of players. That is going to happen no matter the rules. Crooks and dishonest people will always find a way around the rules. I see nothing incinsistent at all about having HIGH SCHOOL age students playing HIGH SCHOOL sports an letting MIDDLE SCHOOL students play MIDDLE SCHOOL sports. If an 8 year old has the academic credentials to enroll in a high school (and their parents choose to do so) then by all means they should be allowed to play high school sports just like if a 16 year old is qualified for admission to college they should be allowed to play sports there. The more I think about it the more I feel like an athlete should only be able to participate in the school level they are enrolled at.
June 26, 200620 yr LBBC, even if the the transfer rule were to extend down to Middle Schools as proposed. it would only mean an ineligible period for those changing school systems without meeting the proper criteria (i.e. legitimate change of address). The middle school athletes would still have the opportunity to participate in the non-contact sports if the HS needed their participation but the athletes would need to consider the possibilty of going to a different HS. Parents of MS athletes are always able to decline the opportunity if they think that freshman eligibilty may become an issue. This still allows for the majority of the MS athletes to play up if necessary.
June 26, 200620 yr My TWO CENTS? Wilson Sears is a selfish MORON. He obviously knows nothing of the differences between smaller more rural counties like Pulaski and a larger county like Jefferson.
June 26, 200620 yr He obviously knows nothing of the differences between smaller more rural counties like Pulaski and a larger county like Jefferson. I honestly think that this is the root of the issue.
June 26, 200620 yr Wow....This is a really one-sided,biased thread.This either agree with private supporters or your an idiot attitude gets old after a while don't it.You guys need to add in the title "No public school opinions allowed!!!"I bet if a public supporter had a thread were he bashed the opinions of every private supporter that said anything he would'nt be on here much longer.IMO of course:thumb:
June 27, 200620 yr I see nothing incinsistent at all about having HIGH SCHOOL age students playing HIGH SCHOOL sports an letting MIDDLE SCHOOL students play MIDDLE SCHOOL sports. If an 8 year old has the academic credentials to enroll in a high school (and their parents choose to do so) then by all means they should be allowed to play high school sports just like if a 16 year old is qualified for admission to college they should be allowed to play sports there. The more I think about it the more I feel like an athlete should only be able to participate in the school level they are enrolled at. So ability has nothing to do with it but all about what school they are enrolled in. That seems VERY EERILY similar to the mindset of those behind Prop 20 except age is the determing factor and not private/public.
June 27, 200620 yr LBBC, even if the the transfer rule were to extend down to Middle Schools as proposed. it would only mean an ineligible period for those changing school systems without meeting the proper criteria (i.e. legitimate change of address). The middle school athletes would still have the opportunity to participate in the non-contact sports if the HS needed their participation but the athletes would need to consider the possibilty of going to a different HS. Parents of MS athletes are always able to decline the opportunity if they think that freshman eligibilty may become an issue. This still allows for the majority of the MS athletes to play up if necessary. Being honest, the proposal is not about MS athletes and where they are playing but about MS athletes playing at a public HS on the varsity level and then enrolling their freshmen year to a private school with no penalty. I was pointing out that the proposal from my view ONLY deals with this issue and there is, to me, a severe punishment for a talented athlete that finds themselves in this position. They could easily want to move school and not need to change houses but would be forced to.
June 27, 200620 yr Being honest, the proposal is not about MS athletes and where they are playing but about MS athletes playing at a public HS on the varsity level and then enrolling their freshmen year to a private school with no penalty. I was pointing out that the proposal from my view ONLY deals with this issue and there is, to me, a severe punishment for a talented athlete that finds themselves in this position. They could easily want to move school and not need to change houses but would be forced to. As the parent of an 8th grader who 'played up' in a HS club sport I understand and agree with this updated rule. When you run with the big dogs you have to abide by the big dog rules. I can see why there would be resentment and perception of recruiting if an MS student can prove themselves early but then switch schools penalty free. Since this rule is aimed at students who voluntarily chose to participate at the HS level it makes sense. When you 'go to the next level' early you should be wary of the issues and potential consequences. The old proposal of 'feeder patterns' that forced ALL students to decide their entire school path in the 5th grade was, and still is, completely absurd. All the views of this thread are valid and I have found myself on all sides of this issue when it comes to whether MSers should be allowed to play up. I think they should be able to play up given that they do not knock a true HSer off the team. i.e. if there are spots open after all the regular HS tryouts and the roster is as filled as possible with HS students. Then and only then should MS students be allowed to play at the HS level for a team. This would keep with the intent of the rule - to allow smaller schools to participate.
June 27, 200620 yr I believe it was in the state tournament two years ago that Pike County Central and Iroquois both either started 3 MSers or had 2 that started and a third that was first off of the bench.
June 27, 200620 yr Heres the thing about Wilson Sears and Somerset. If you don't live in their district you can attend their "Independent" school system for a fee. I would think, if it is a fee, it would be called tuition. Over the years Somerset has had several athletes who lived in the Pulaski or Southwestern district attend Somerset, And pay tuition. Most of the well heeled students most always lived out in the County. Somerset has lost kids to the county when they entered the 9th grade but over the last 2 years they have gained several promising middle schoolers as well. IMO Somerset operates like a private except they don't have the success that most privates do. When they have lost to a larger school, size is always the excuse. For years they have always targeted the best young athletes and included them in their AAU, club or All star teams in hope of getting them to switch. I am a public school person. Always have been, always will be. I have family who attend a private school. Targeting young athletes will always go on. It does in public schools as well as private schools. I agree that open enrollment is the answer. As a parent I think anyone should have the right to send their child to any school for any reason. That being said were going to pass the offering plate now...... :fight:
June 27, 200620 yr LBBC, IMO if a Middle School athlete knows that they will be attending a different HS (or it appears that this may be a possibility), then they should not "play up" at the HS level. Agreeing with Lexcard, if you play at the HS level then you should be required to abide by their rules. I have seen this from public MS to private HS, from public MS to different public HS, from private MS to different private HS and from private MS to public HS.
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