June 30, 200620 yr I hear ya pep! Two different sides, I agree, but not sure the resolution is the difference in the two sides. Do we even agree that there is a problem to solve with unfair advantage in enrollments? I am not even sure if I would consider it to be an unfair advantage. But that is a semantics argument that would take hours if not days. But the enrollment discrepancy can cause advantages.
June 30, 200620 yr No time for semantics, say what you mean, mean what you say! One other alternative is a twist on what "Runfirst" suggested, combine schools to increase numbers similar to that of the largest. But that wouldnt benefit the kids at all. I am guessing the Manual/Male alum's would love to have those two schools back together again, could make the new super power in high school sports, but ask the kids and I think they want to play more not watch and cheer more.
June 30, 200620 yr How about putting this on the small schools. I say make them combine teams. Why affect dozens of small schools when the real issue lies with the two gi-normous schools?
June 30, 200620 yr Why affect dozens of small schools when the real issue lies with the two gi-normous schools? The problem IS NOT with two schools. Both schools are large because there is a demand for what they offer. That is not a problem, it is a good thing. Leave it alone.
June 30, 200620 yr Actually, Trinity and St. X are neither that large, if comparing numbers of students to other schools. The difference is that all of our students are male. So, H, we're really not gi-normous. We just have a plethora of testosterone in our schools.
June 30, 200620 yr Actually, Trinity and St. X are neither that large, if comparing numbers of students to other schools. The difference is that all of our students are male. So, H, we're really not gi-normous. We just have a plethora of testosterone in our schools. It's from the cloning.
June 30, 200620 yr How would you propose that Trinity implements it space wise? Are you saying we need a certain amount of acres per number of students or what? That may be easier in other parts of the state but up here land is pricey. There is a big difference in the space needed for class sizes to be small and the space needed to handle multiple football teams. You are saying because a school is large they should have to invest even more money into things on that, what about teacher's salaries? What about services for the students. Athletics in school are a privelage not a right. This doesn't seem like a very valid argument. If Trinity were co-ed, it would have to provide athletic facilities for twice as many sports as it currently does. Lexington Catholic, Covington Catholic, Owensboro Catholic, and Holy Cross (all considerably smaller and arguably less wealthy) have found ways to offer the full spectrum of sports for boys and girls. Doing that means providing facilities for practices and managing availability of the venues. An example of that is the way Manual Stadium is able to support both Manual and X home games. How would fielding two teams impose a disproportionate hardship when compared to what co-ed schools have been doing for years?
June 30, 200620 yr Mom is right, schools not that big in relation to others. I wouldnt change the size of the school no one has suggested that, T and X are awesome schools. I say let them get as big as they want I wouldnt care if they had 10,000 students but then would they still only have one athletic team?
June 30, 200620 yr This doesn't seem like a very valid argument. If Trinity were co-ed, it would have to provide athletic facilities for twice as many sports as it currently does. Lexington Catholic, Covington Catholic, Owensboro Catholic, and Holy Cross (all considerably smaller and arguably less wealthy) have found ways to offer the full spectrum of sports for boys and girls. Doing that means providing facilities for practices and managing availability of the venues. An example of that is the way Manual Stadium is able to support both Manual and X home games. How would fielding two teams impose a disproportionate hardship when compared to what co-ed schools have been doing for years? Well here we have the problem.......we are not co-ed. If arguments are just as invalid as anythign I have put forward here because they are just as much a construct of fiction than what I had put forward. Were we coed these issues would have been addressed as we grew and there is every chance that this wouldn't be an issue as our "numbers" wouldn't be so massive. That hypothetical is wholly irrelevant here. Also why are all the other schools so blasted intent on cutting us up? The very concept is offensive to me and that everyone is so gung ho for it absolutely disgusts me. Should we have our players play with an arm tied behind their backs too? I am sure Bobby Redman would love that. Sorry I am just rather agitated that people would even insinuate that we subdivide ourselves.
June 30, 200620 yr Sorry to disgust, but I disagree, the big 2 at least could afford it. It could, should and would work!
June 30, 200620 yr Sorry to disgust, but I disagree, the big 2 at least could afford it. It could, should and would work! Why should it, explain that to me please? Sure they could pay for it but then they would have to seriously cut back other services and/or hike tuition. Neither of which are acceptable options.
June 30, 200620 yr Limitations of school size are SELF IMPOSED. There is enough of a demand for the traditional program that they could easilly have a high school enrollment of 2000+ if they chose to do so. Because they choose to stay small is no reason to expect another school to change the way that they operate.
July 1, 200620 yr It should because they are playing in a leauge with only 4 other schools with a comparable number or students in the student body. No one has suggested that the large school reduce the number of students in their enrollment, only suggestions as to how they operate relative to sports within the KHSAA Class system. I have already stated let them become as large as they like, I think I said 10,000 all male students. At what point are the enrollment numbers excessive to the point of being considered unfair, 2000 vs 700, 3000 vs 700, 5000, then would anyone agree they should have more than one team? I compliment Peprock for discussing this issue most folks refuse to discuss it. Your passion for your school is commendable, but no less than mine!
July 2, 200620 yr Limitations of school size are SELF IMPOSED. There is enough of a demand for the traditional program that they could easilly have a high school enrollment of 2000+ if they chose to do so. Because they choose to stay small is no reason to expect another school to change the way that they operate. I would agree with your statement for the city schools. For rural schools, the school size is more of a geographical thing than self imposed. Don't believe that Deming would ever reach AAAA status being located in the smallest county in the state, Robertson County. Please remember, not every school in the state is like Louisville schools. There are other schools in this state besides Louisville schools.
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