If the black belt doesn't show any signs of attacking or if the dog just stays at the door and barks then we agree.

 

I've already said in my hypothetical that the suspect is resisting arrest and the officer is going to have to do it the hard way. They still can't shoot them on the possibility the guy is an elite martial arts expert. Same way with an approaching dog. It's possible it will springboard into latching onto your jugular, but not likely. There are other ways of handling both situations before you get to killing.

 

Then shoot the dog.

 

The POSSIBILITY of being bit by a dog does not (or should not) warrant killing the dog.

 

So he had to wait until he gets bit, or a kid gets bit?

 

No...The answer is no.

I've already said in my hypothetical that the suspect is resisting arrest and the officer is going to have to do it the hard way. They still can't shoot them on the possibility the guy is an elite martial arts expert. Same way with an approaching dog. It's possible it will springboard into latching onto your jugular, but not likely. There are other ways of handling both situations before you get to killing.

My guess, and there could be actual cases to support it, is that if the officer knows the suspect is highly trained/skill in martial arts of some kind and shot the suspect they could argue there was a greater chance of being over powered and possibly having their side arm taken.

How many times should an officer allow a dog to bite them before it's ok to shot the dog?

So what you are saying is you'd rather an officer get injured, before they defend themselves?

 

Yes. I would rather the officer risk a DOG BITE than killing a dog immediately.

So he had to wait until he gets bit, or a kid gets bit?

 

No...The answer is no.

 

Agree to disagree.

How many times should an officer allow a dog to bite them before it's ok to shot the dog?

 

Once.

 

If the dog bites the officer that is fair game to shoot it, IMO.

 

Agree to disagree.

 

You are wrong. No one has to wait till the dog has latched on to defend themselves, police included.

 

Owning a dog comes with the responsibility of not letting it run up to anyone and everyone.

 

I love dogs, and personally I would try my best to do whatever it takes to not shoot a dog. I've been bitten before...and still didn't shoot it. However, I don't expect someone else to do that. Being bitten by a dog hurts and can do serious damage.

Where did you read/hear that the officer heard the dog barking before the door was opened?

 

I watched the video. By his actions, and by the fact that dogs bark when the doorbell rings, I am concluding that he was preparing for the threat of the dog. My point is that a viable strategy for conflict resolution is to avoid the conflict in the first place. He could and should have done this by backing away from the door after he rang the door bell. I have done this many times when I am forced to ring a stranger's doorbell whether there is a dog or not so as not to intimidate the person who will open the door.

 

Once.

 

If the dog bites the officer that is fair game to shoot it, IMO.

 

I know people that have had to have facial surgery from one bite...

 

Waiting for one bite might be too late.

I hope a police officer never goes to a dog park. Could be a lot of upset dog owners if they do.

 

And in this case as it has been pointed out (and subsequently ignored) the officer had his hand on his gun before the dog even came out the door. He was prepared to shoot as soon as he saw the dog without knowing what the dog's actions would be. I should add IMO to that last part I suppose.

Once.

 

If the dog bites the officer that is fair game to shoot it, IMO.

 

So the officer shouldn't be allowed to shoot a dog until they are bit?

I hope a police officer never goes to a dog park. Could be a lot of upset dog owners if they do.

 

And in this case as it has been pointed out (and subsequently ignored) the officer had his hand on his gun before the dog even came out the door. He was prepared to shoot as soon as he saw the dog without knowing what the dog's actions would be. I should add IMO to that last part I suppose.

He has zero idea what kind of dog is behind that door and what it is going to do. If I were in his shoes I'd have my hand on my gun as well.

I think we all know my answer to the question.

He has zero idea what kind of dog is behind that door and what it is going to do. If I were in his shoes I'd have my hand on my gun as well.

 

"Please make sure your dog is restrained before opening the door."