October 26, 201511 yr Check the 20 second mark of the video. The officer's hand is on his gun when the lady cracks the door, BEFORE the dog has run out. I would presume that the officer heard the dog barking behind the door. Procedure should be: When he hears a dog behind the door. and this isn't a criminal situation, back away from the door. This gives time to understand and react to any potential situation. I don't consider myself an expert, but I work with a lot of dogs...95+%, even if they charge, will stop short if the person acts calmly. If the dog has friendly intentions, it is more space to assess the motive. To stand right behind the door preparing to draw gun is wrong. The officer would have had to shoot me too.
October 26, 201511 yr Author How so? Because the courts say they can. The 4th Amendment, though, stops them from entering your home without a warrant or justification.
October 26, 201511 yr Author Check the 20 second mark of the video. The officer's hand is on his gun when the lady cracks the door, BEFORE the dog has run out. I would presume that the officer heard the dog barking behind the door. Procedure should be: When he hears a dog behind the door. and this isn't a criminal situation, back away from the door. This gives time to understand and react to any potential situation. I don't consider myself an expert, but I work with a lot of dogs...95+%, even if they charge, will stop short if the person acts calmly. If the dog has friendly intentions, it is more space to assess the motive. To stand right behind the door preparing to draw gun is wrong. The officer would have had to shoot me too. Did you see anything in the two seconds to make you think the dog was going to pull up short?
October 26, 201511 yr The broad issue of police officers shooting dogs in citizens' homes is emblematic of the entire police brutality debate going on today. Of course the vast majority of LEO are responsible and all around great people. The problem is, in situations where they screw up they stick up for each other, society treats their recollection of events as 100% rock solid, the police unions keep them shielded, and until recently prosecutors have been extremely reluctant to prosecute them. Of course a cop should be able to protect himself from a dangerous dog, but if a trigger-happy cop with a shoot first mentality acts objectively wrong, hold him accountable.
October 26, 201511 yr Did you see anything in the two seconds to make you think the dog was going to pull up short? Even if the dog jumped up on him, so what? I'm going to start shooting every dog that jumps up on me and see how that works out for me in the long run.
October 26, 201511 yr Author Even if the dog jumped up on him, so what? I'm going to start shooting every dog that jumps up on me and see how that works out for me in the long run. So you're saying an officer should suffer an injury/bite BEFORE shooting. I say that's too late.
October 26, 201511 yr Did you see anything in the two seconds to make you think the dog was going to pull up short? Did you read my post? Why didn't the officer back away from the door when he heard the dog barking behind the door? Seems like common sense to me. It was clear rather than avoiding a possible confrontation which was highly possible, he prepared for it.
October 26, 201511 yr So you're saying an officer should suffer an injury/bite BEFORE shooting. I say that's too late. So you know for certain the dog was going to attack the officer?
October 26, 201511 yr So you're saying an officer should suffer an injury/bite BEFORE shooting. I say that's too late. Before KILLING a dog? :lol2: Yes, I'm saying he/she should wait.
October 26, 201511 yr Author So you know for certain the dog was going to attack the officer? That's my damn point! The officer should NOT have to wait to be bitten. If he feels threatened he has the right to shoot. What did you see in this video that proves the dog was not going to bite the officer despite it running and lunging at him?
October 26, 201511 yr Author Before KILLING a dog? :lol2: Yes, I'm saying he/she should wait. We, and the courts, disagree.
October 26, 201511 yr Author Did you read my post? Why didn't the officer back away from the door when he heard the dog barking behind the door? Seems like common sense to me. It was clear rather than avoiding a possible confrontation which was highly possible, he prepared for it. Where did you read/hear that the officer heard the dog barking before the door was opened?
October 26, 201511 yr That's my damn point! The officer should NOT have to wait to be bitten. If he feels threatened he has the right to shoot. What did you see in this video that proves the dog was not going to bite the officer despite it running and lunging at him? Before the door even opened he had his hand on his weapon. He was shooting before he ever saw the dog.
October 26, 201511 yr If he feels threatened he has the right to shoot. And there is the biggest problem we have with police and excessive force Today...
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