July 25, 201511 yr Let's go with this one. It worked before. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#Criteria_of_an_assault_weapon So you are using the definition of the ban that passed on the 90s?
July 25, 201511 yr Author So you are using the definition of the ban that passed on the 90s? Does it need updated? Ok great. Beats nothing like we have now.
July 25, 201511 yr Does it need updated? Ok great. Beats nothing like we have now. My biggest issue with that list is that is more fixated on weapons that look mean and therefore can easily be identified as "assault" by the public. The fact that none are full auto or burst fire capable I find problematic as the lethality of a weapon is not defined by its appearance. Is a Remington 30.06 less dangerous than an AR-15 because it doesn't look as mean? Anything that is full auto or burst capable are restricted to anyone with a Class III license. So I am struggling to see how that makes a difference since the actual assault rifles are already that hard to get. Also, why does a bayonet mount count? How many attacks involve people with mounted bayonets?
July 25, 201511 yr 1. My point is they can. We already do something about it. It's called gun laws. Look them up, there are a lot of them. Remember prohibition? How about drugs, totally illegal, right? Any of this sinking in? Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44. Sorry, that worries me more. Don't hear me crying for a ban on any vehicles though, do you? 2. Why do you need anything you own that isn't what I consider a necessity? Why do you care if I own what you consider an "assault weapon"? Why do you care how many rounds it takes? What's the percentage of people killed yearly by "assault weapons"? Again, define assault weapon. Here, or worldwide? I thought the number was in the low 30-thousands in the U.S.
July 25, 201511 yr Author Let me ease your concern a little. Think of the last time you heard of someone killed with an actual assault weapon in civilian USA. How often in your lifetime do you think it's occurred? According to the Washington Post the weapon James Holmes in Aurora used would have been illegal. You guys are splitting hairs for what I don't know. "Assault weapons were just used 2% of the time." The fact they were used to murder at all is an issue that proves the point they should not be produced and sold. I know they have a higher kill rate. That's common sense that I don't even have to Google.
July 25, 201511 yr Author Here, or worldwide? I thought the number was in the low 30-thousands in the U.S. Yeah that's much lower 30-40s. Let's not derail but I wonder how many of those are due to ignored infrastructure?
July 26, 201511 yr According to the Washington Post the weapon James Holmes in Aurora used would have been illegal. You guys are splitting hairs for what I don't know. "Assault weapons were just used 2% of the time." The fact they were used to murder at all is an issue that proves the point they should not be produced and sold. I know they have a higher kill rate. That's common sense that I don't even have to Google. The fact that knives are used to murder at all proves they shouldn't be produced and sold. I can play this game too.
July 26, 201511 yr Author The fact that knives are used to murder at all proves they shouldn't be produced and sold. I can play this game too. You hold the knife. I hold the gun. Game over. I win. Or vice versa.
July 26, 201511 yr Let's go with this one. It worked before. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#Criteria_of_an_assault_weapon See...you've been duped. Those aren't assault weapons. This is the problem, you don't even know what an assault weapon is. :no:
July 26, 201511 yr Author See...you've been duped. Those aren't assault weapons. This is the problem, you don't even know what an assault weapon is. :no: Ok. Sorry :thumb: Just going on what they did in the 90s. Maybe we need a new definition. Define it so we don't have guns that have only militaristic use for sale on the daily.
July 26, 201511 yr Here, or worldwide? I thought the number was in the low 30-thousands in the U.S.I'm sorry, you are correct. This is the US stats: Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year Nearly 8,000 people are killed in crashes involving drivers ages 16-20 Road crashes cost the U.S. $230.6 billion per year, or an average of $820 per person Road crashes are the single greatest annual cause of death of healthy U.S. citizens traveling abroad I'm still much more concerned with this than gun violence deaths. You?
July 26, 201511 yr According to the Washington Post the weapon James Holmes in Aurora used would have been illegal. You guys are splitting hairs for what I don't know. "Assault weapons were just used 2% of the time." The fact they were used to murder at all is an issue that proves the point they should not be produced and sold. I know they have a higher kill rate. That's common sense that I don't even have to Google. You are really reaching here. 1. The semi auto AR-15 he used was banned up until 2004. You know why? It looked mean. Yep. That's it. There were rifles not banned in that time frame under that useless legislation that would do much more damage. But, hey, it looked military. 2. I can kill you with a knife, a screwdriver, a baseball bat, a hammer. The fact they are and have been used to murder at all is an issue that proves the point they should not be produced and sold, at least, under your rule of thought that is. 3. They have a higher kill rate yet simple revolvers misused kill more. Imagine that. No Google necessary for that either. Edited July 26, 201511 yr by Run To State
July 26, 201511 yr Author I'm sorry, you are correct. This is the US stats: Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year Nearly 8,000 people are killed in crashes involving drivers ages 16-20 Road crashes cost the U.S. $230.6 billion per year, or an average of $820 per person Road crashes are the single greatest annual cause of death of healthy U.S. citizens traveling abroad I'm still much more concerned with this than gun violence deaths. You? Yep scares me to death. Our infrastructure sucks with no attempt to keep up with the amount of automobiles on it, but we are talking about two different issues. Cars are nearly necessary to daily life. Guns aren't. Not a good connection.
July 26, 201511 yr Yeah that's much lower 30-40s. Let's not derail but I wonder how many of those are due to ignored infrastructure?:lol2: I bet driver distraction is way, way, way more the culprit than ignored infrastructure. Own a cell phone? BAN IT!
July 26, 201511 yr Yep scares me to death. Our infrastructure sucks with no attempt to keep up with the amount of automobiles on it, but we are talking about two different issues. Cars are nearly necessary to daily life. Guns aren't. Not a good connection. We have buses. We can build light rail. We don't need cars. See how stupid these arguments can get?
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