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Jury: Robin Thicke & Pharrell Williams Ripped Off Marvin Gaye

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CWB, I have to admit, when I saw you embedded a video I was a little afraid you posted the "Blurred Lines" Music Video without having watched it all the way through. Whew. :bunny:

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"Right now, I feel free from Pharrell Williams' and Robin Thicke's chains that they tried to keep on us and the lies that they told," Nona Gaye said. "This was a miracle."

 

 

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"Right now, I feel free from Pharrell Williams' and Robin Thicke's chains that they tried to keep on us and the lies that they told," Nona Gaye said. "This was a miracle."

 

:rolleyes:

Dramatics aside, I find the bass line and beat to be way more than just coincidentally similar.

Pharrell said that it was meant to mimic that song as an homage to one of his all time favorite artist.

 

I guess all of the sampling done during the 90's is up from grabs now.

Dramatics aside, I find the bass line and beat to be way more than just coincidentally similar.

 

Me too!

Pharrell said that it was meant to mimic that song as an homage to one of his all time favorite artist.

 

I guess all of the sampling done during the 90's is up from grabs now.

 

Not if the artists got permission from the original artists. Seems like in this case they didn't get permission and tried to pull a Vanilla Ice.

Got To Give It Up is one of the songs the Boyle County basketball team warms up to.

I knew a song writer who said he never listened to the radio of the genre he wrote...said it was impossible not to incorporate at least something from what he had heard into his own writings.

 

Think about it: if you write songs, where do you get the idea for the music?

 

By the way, that song writer is now a comedian. Must be easier to "borrow" a line here, a joke there, put your own vocal pattern and facial expressions and body movements with it...to make it brand new.

I knew a song writer who said he never listened to the radio of the genre he wrote...said it was impossible not to incorporate at least something from what he had heard into his own writings.

 

The difference between being inspired by and simply ripping off another artist has to be tough to judge. I know several months ago Jim Shue was talking about an artist he felt was simply ripping off past greats and I asked him where the line is drawn between inspiration and ripping off and he and I both agreed that it can be a difficult line to define but it is there.

Certainly similar but it doesn't sound like 7.3 million worth.

 

I am guessing the amount of the award is some how related to how much the court believed Pharrell and Thicke would have had to pay the Marvin Gaye family if they had approached them upfront asking to buy the rights to release a song with a beat similar to Gaye's song along with punitive damages for not asking upfront. Our legal gurus may know more about that.

The difference between being inspired by and simply ripping off another artist has to be tough to judge. I know several months ago Jim Shue was talking about an artist he felt was simply ripping off past greats and I asked him where the line is drawn between inspiration and ripping off and he and I both agreed that it can be a difficult line to define but it is there.

 

I know literally thousands of songs...of several different genres...by title & at least part of the tune. I can imagine it being impossible to know which song/songs had bits and pieces included in a particular composition...if I had happened to be a writer.

I am guessing the amount of the award is some how related to how much the court believed Pharrell and Thicke would have had to pay the Marvin Gaye family if they had approached them upfront asking to buy the rights to release a song with a beat similar to Gaye's song along with punitive damages for not asking upfront. Our legal gurus may know more about that.

 

Thanks Bert. Kinda my assumption too, it seems like a lot but then again I have no idea how the music industry works.

The Gaye family is not done yet. Members of the family are now saying that Pharrell's song "Happy" sounds very similar to Marvin's song "Ain't That Peculiar".

Thanks Bert. Kinda my assumption too, it seems like a lot but then again I have no idea how the music industry works.

 

In the 90's Whitney Houston remade the song, "I Will Always Love You". The song was originally written by Dolly Parton and she still owns the rights to the song. While Whitney Houston I am sure made a lot of money for that song, I have read no one made near what Dolly did since she owned the rights to the song. Along with a cash payment up front, I believe Dolly makes a decent percentage of every single sold and the residuals paid by radio stations when played and she also makes a small portion of album sales that song is on and a tiny portion of concert sales the song is sung at.

 

I was watching a show about Elvis Presley's controversial manager who wanted Elvis to remake that song and part of the deal was that Dolly would have to sell 50% of the rights to the song. Dolly backed out of the deal and supposedly that decision resulted in a wealthy woman becoming an unbelievably wealthy woman.

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