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2015 Class 2A Preseason Top 10

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I never said can't compete. I don't understand you mayfield fans? Posting like you have a chip on your shoulder and most of the time no ones even insulting you. I was simply saying that Desales and CAL will Defintely be an upgrade in competition for mayfield come play off time.

 

 

How so?

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I was simply saying that Desales and CAL will Defintely be an upgrade in competition for mayfield come play off time.

 

I can't see that 2A was any better than 1A. Beechwood beat 2A runner up NCC 30-14. Mayfield beat Murray 21-10 and Caldwell Co 40-12. The same Murray team that Desales beat 14-7 thanks to a referee debacle. Mayfield rated higher according to Calpreps than Desales. Just my opinion and we all have our own but I can't see that 2A was any better at the top than was 1A and this has held true most years lately.

I like the Desales talk. Let'em be preseason 1. Let'em believe that little ole Mayfield can't compete at the 2A level. Please KHSAA please don't put us in the big bad 2A level, the level where we already were and won five state titles. That's 3 more titles in 2A than what Desales has. I will take Mayfield vs. the field this year. Mayfield will be better this year than last year, at the end of the year. Some growing pains early perhaps.

 

Wow this is the post you make because there are some people who actually think that DeSales is better than Mayfield? Come on now you sound like a kid! But if we are gonna talk past games blah blah then let's ask a question. What do you think DeSales would have done to the Williamsburg team that took you guys into ot last year?

I never said can't compete. I don't understand you mayfield fans? Posting like you have a chip on your shoulder and most of the time no ones even insulting you. I was simply saying that Desales and CAL will Defintely be an upgrade in competition for mayfield come play off time.

 

Don't get sucked in. Mayfield fans are looking for any reason to feel slighted.

Don't get sucked in. Mayfield fans are looking for any reason to feel slighted.

 

I can see where Mayfield fans are coming from. Honestly, Mayfield should be looked at like Trinity and Highlands. People should be asking how can we beat them? Yet they are consistently looked at as the challenger, not the the champion everyone else should be trying to knock off. It is a subtle difference but it is real. I can see where some people make DeSales #1 because they have been really strong the last couple years. But no way CAL or anyone else should be ranked higher than Mayfield.

Wow this is the post you make because there are some people who actually think that DeSales is better than Mayfield? Come on now you sound like a kid! But if we are gonna talk past games blah blah then let's ask a question. What do you think DeSales would have done to the Williamsburg team that took you guys into ot last year?

 

I don't think the post was childish. All we have heard from Desales is about how 2A is gonna be tougher for us. This is because Mayfield has been consistently ranked higher than Desales, so it made it tough for you to argue that your team was better. So you simply imply that your class is better, and better in a way that will make a difference.

I am merely pointing out that we have already been in this class, and we did better in it than Desales ever has. And, well, we are coming back to do it again. I have no idea how you would have done last year against last years williamsburg team. I do know exactly how you did against Murray, and it wasn't exactly impressive. But congratulations on squeaking by them.

The talk is fun, but we are in your class now, and your application for the "woulda coulda shoulda beat Mayfield" club is in the mail.

I don't agree. Since the late 2000s, I have looked at them as Kings of 1A. I think that De Sales is the team being slighted here. Last year's team was as dominate of a 2A team as we have seen since at least 2007 when I started paying attention to the class.

I don't think the post was childish. All we have heard from Desales is about how 2A is gonna be tougher for us. This is because Mayfield has been consistently ranked higher than Desales, so it made it tough for you to argue that your team was better. So you simply imply that your class is better, and better in a way that will make a difference.

I am merely pointing out that we have already been in this class, and we did better in it than Desales ever has. And, well, we are coming back to do it again. I have no idea how you would have done last year against last years williamsburg team. I do know exactly how you did against Murray, and it wasn't exactly impressive. But congratulations on squeaking by them.

The talk is fun, but we are in your class now, and your application for the "woulda coulda shoulda beat Mayfield" club is in the mail.

 

I respect both teams but am a fan of neither, and your posts sound childish to me. DeSales and other teams in 2A civilly stated that they believe they are equal to or better than Mayfield. Whether they are right or wrong, they have presented their opinion in a reasonable manner.

 

You have responded by disparaging them and their team. Instead of explaining why you believe Mayfield is a superior team in a civil discussion, you immediately went on the attack and mocked them for daring to have an opinion different than yours.

 

Try looking at the situation from their perspective, rather than just lashing out.

I don't agree. Since the late 2000s, I have looked at them as Kings of 1A. I think that De Sales is the team being slighted here. Last year's team was as dominate of a 2A team as we have seen since at least 2007 when I started paying attention to the class.

 

I believe this is where Mayfield is getting slighted. They are more than kings of 1A. I am not saying they beat Trinity or Highlands, but I am saying they are much, much more than kings of 1A. Calpreps.com had Mayfield #7 in the state in their final ranking last year, higher than DeSales, Bowling Green and others.

 

Yes, I agree that last year's DeSales team was dominant but the Murray score as a point of comparison between Mayfield and DeSales shows they were beatable. Mayfield's strength of schedule last year was actually higher than DeSales.

 

Looking ahead to 2015, it is a close call because I have been very impressed by DeSales the last 2 years, but I am not picking against Mayfield.

I don't think the post was childish. All we have heard from Desales is about how 2A is gonna be tougher for us. This is because Mayfield has been consistently ranked higher than Desales, so it made it tough for you to argue that your team was better. So you simply imply that your class is better, and better in a way that will make a difference.

I am merely pointing out that we have already been in this class, and we did better in it than Desales ever has. And, well, we are coming back to do it again. I have no idea how you would have done last year against last years williamsburg team. I do know exactly how you did against Murray, and it wasn't exactly impressive. But congratulations on squeaking by them.

The talk is fun, but we are in your class now, and your application for the "woulda coulda shoulda beat Mayfield" club is in the mail.

 

To bad I'm in no way affiliated with DeSales.

I believe this is where Mayfield is getting slighted. They are more than kings of 1A. I am not saying they beat Trinity or Highlands, but I am saying they are much, much more than kings of 1A. Calpreps.com had Mayfield #7 in the state in their final ranking last year, higher than DeSales, Bowling Green and others.

 

Yes, I agree that last year's DeSales team was dominant but the Murray score as a point of comparison between Mayfield and DeSales shows they were beatable. Mayfield's strength of schedule last year was actually higher than DeSales.

 

Looking ahead to 2015, it is a close call because I have been very impressed by DeSales the last 2 years, but I am not picking against Mayfield.

 

Talking about one game is fine when comparing, but shouldn't we agree to discuss how Mayfield barely slid by Williamsburg, in fact Williamsburg shot themselves in the foot. DeSales is a very good team, in my opinion would have given anyone in NKY a run for their money last yr and until someone knocks them off as the 2A state champions they should remain preseason. This is just my opinion though. #1 .

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Talking about one game is fine when comparing, but shouldn't we agree to discuss how Mayfield barely slid by Williamsburg, in fact Williamsburg shot themselves in the foot. DeSales is a very good team, in my opinion would have given anyone in NKY a run for their money last yr and until someone knocks them off as the 2A state champions they should remain preseason. This is just my opinion though. #1 .

 

 

Everyone has opinions and I am no exception and little said here is likely to change anyone else opinion nor should it since they did not play head to head. As for comparisons of more than just one game I agree there should be more than that. Calpreps has Mayfield ranked higher, Mayfield had a tougher strength of schedule. Mayfield beat up on highly touted 2A Caldwell before Sindelar went down to injury in the playoffs. Beechwood handily beat NCC the 2A runner up by a score of 30 to 14. Desales beat NCC 26-0. Mayfield beat Beechwood. Everything I see stats wise and comparison wise indicates Mayfield would have been a favorite to have won the 2A title last year over Desales and Mayfield returns far more this year than Desales does. As for your argument that until someone knocks them off as the 2A state champions they should remain #1 does not really apply to the Mayfield, winner of the last 3 state titles with a team returning more than Desales. From an objective standpoint I have made a good case for why I think Mayfield should be the preseason #1 .

Everyone has opinions and I am no exception and little said here is likely to change anyone else opinion nor should it since they did not play head to head. As for comparisons of more than just one game I agree there should be more than that. Calpreps has Mayfield ranked higher, Mayfield had a tougher strength of schedule. Mayfield beat up on highly touted 2A Caldwell before Sindelar went down to injury in the playoffs. Beechwood handily beat NCC the 2A runner up by a score of 30 to 14. Desales beat NCC 26-0. Mayfield beat Beechwood. Everything I see stats wise and comparison wise indicates Mayfield would have been a favorite to have won the 2A title last year over Desales and Mayfield returns far more this year than Desales does. As for your argument that until someone knocks them off as the 2A state champions they should remain #1 does not really apply to the Mayfield, winner of the last 3 state titles with a team returning more than Desales. From an objective standpoint I have made a good case for why I think Mayfield should be the preseason #1 .

 

Well since you spoke and made such a string point why don't the KHSAA just go ahead and ship Mayfield the state championship trophy, why should DeSales or NCC or Cal or anyone else that's in 2A play this yr???

Well since you spoke and made such a string point why don't the KHSAA just go ahead and ship Mayfield the state championship trophy, why should DeSales or NCC or Cal or anyone else that's in 2A play this yr???

 

Come on now. Don't just throw that give them the trophy baloney out there. TP makes a good case for Mayfield to be number 1. Let's hear some facts on why DeSales is the better pick.

In no way did he imply that Mayfield would be the state champions. He simply gave a civil post with his reasons Mayfield should be the preseason #1 (as was brought up earlier in this thread). His points are hard to argue against in my opinion.

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