I didn't follow the trial at all but have heard there was no murder weapon nor factual evidence, only circumstantial. Could this in conjunction with other unjust things that happen in our society be the reason for "ignorant reactions"?

 

 

I haven't paid hardly any attention to this, and am just learning the same things.

 

So, no factual evidence and a guy might be spending the rest of his life in prison?

 

I just attribute it to plain ignorance.

 

Yup

I think ESPN will try to pin it on Jameis Winston

I haven't paid hardly any attention to this, and am just learning the same things.

 

So, no factual evidence and a guy might be spending the rest of his life in prison?

 

From my understanding, yes. But others such as @halfback20 know much more than me in regards to this trial.

 

From my understanding, yes. But others such as @halfback20 know much more than me in regards to this trial.

 

You must be thinking of someone else :lol2:

 

I have only followed it a little.

I haven't paid hardly any attention to this, and am just learning the same things.

 

So, no factual evidence and a guy might be spending the rest of his life in prison?

Had him at the murder scene.

I believe their was blood evidence tying him to the murder.

Video of him coming home with a gun right after the murder.

Testimony of others I believe.

Message from victim saying he was with AH not long before he was murdered.

 

I didn't keep up with it but those are some of the facts they did have I believe.

His defense admitted he was there during the murder.

 

His home security footage showed him get out of his SUV with a gun that matches the description of the murder weapon.

 

A casing was found in his SUV.

 

Those are main points that I remember. Not sure what else.

I heard Lloyd's mother was very gracious while Hernandez kept his stoic face.

I didn't follow the trial at all but have heard there was no murder weapon nor factual evidence, only circumstantial. Could this in conjunction with other unjust things that happen in our society be the reason for "ignorant reactions"?

 

His defense admitted he was there during the murder.

 

His home security footage showed him get out of his SUV with a gun that matches the description of the murder weapon.

 

A casing was found in his SUV.

 

Those are main points that I remember. Not sure what else.

 

 

To the first: True, but there was a TON of circumstantial evidence.

 

1.) New pair of Jordan footprints in a huge size (i.e., only could have been Hernandez's) by the body. The shoes he was wearing were new and thus the tread on the bottom was not worn and left a very distinct pattern.

 

2.) Joint with both Hernandez and Lloyd's DNA on it left beside the body.

 

3.) Text messages from Lloyd that says something to the effect of "you know who I'm with, NFL, just in case".

 

4.) Hernandez's phone putting him at the scene according to cell tower records.

 

5.) Hernandez's DNA being found on a shell casing and/or piece of gum that was found near the car rental agency's dumpster.

 

6.) Hernandez smashing his security system but the prosecution recovering a picture of him holding what appears to be a gun moments after the incident.

 

7.) Housekeeper/babysitter bit that was meant to turn Hernandez's finance against him. Despite it not being successful in that way, it probably didn't help him in the eyes of the jury. (see post #27 or read about it here).

 

8.) Hernandez's wife testifying that she threw away a box for him and couldn't remember where she put it.

 

9.) By closing arguments, Hernandez's legal team basically having to admit that the prosecution had put on such a strong case that they argued that he was there, but wasn't the person who pulled the trigger.

 

It wasn't the easiest case with no confession, no murder weapon, no eye witnesses coming forward, but the amount of evidence they had otherwise was overwhelming.

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Given the media coverage of this case, it wouldn't completely shock me if this ended up being a mistrial or something similar. It would only take one juror saying the wrong thing to a reporter or someone questioning them to do so if it were bad enough.

Aaron Hernandez verdict: 5 things to know about jury - CNN.com

Six Patriot fans but none knew of his other legal woes? ,Do those fans live under rocks?

To the first: True, but there was a TON of circumstantial evidence.

 

1.) New pair of Jordan footprints in a huge size (i.e., only could have been Hernandez's) by the body. The shoes he was wearing were new and thus the tread on the bottom was not worn and left a very distinct pattern.

 

2.) Joint with both Hernandez and Lloyd's DNA on it left beside the body.

 

3.) Text messages from Lloyd that says something to the effect of "you know who I'm with, NFL, just in case".

 

4.) Hernandez's phone putting him at the scene according to cell tower records.

 

5.) Hernandez's DNA being found on a shell casing and/or piece of gum that was found near the car rental agency's dumpster.

 

6.) Hernandez smashing his security system but the prosecution recovering a picture of him holding what appears to be a gun moments after the incident.

 

7.) Housekeeper/babysitter bit that was meant to turn Hernandez's finance against him. Despite it not being successful in that way, it probably didn't help him in the eyes of the jury. (see post #27 or read about it here).

 

8.) Hernandez's wife testifying that she threw away a box for him and couldn't remember where she put it.

 

9.) By closing arguments, Hernandez's legal team basically having to admit that the prosecution had put on such a strong case that they argued that he was there, but wasn't the person who pulled the trigger.

 

It wasn't the easiest case with no confession, no murder weapon, no eye witnesses coming forward, but the amount of evidence they had otherwise was overwhelming.

I believe #3 was disallowed by the judge.

@NotBillWalton

 

Prison will be just like the NFL for Aaron Hernandez. There will still be men making passes at him by throwing balls towards his face.

 

A guy of his size and NFL athletic ability — let's face it, he's certainly been doing little more with his free time in jail than lifting weights. Methinks he'll be the one throwing the passes.

A guy of his size and NFL athletic ability — let's face it, he's certainly been doing little more with his free time in jail than lifting weights. Methinks he'll be the one throwing the passes.

 

There's always a bigger fish!