The problem with antics like that is that when another player does the same thing a fight usually occurs. The ones that dish it out can't take it.

But the thing is .. He does take it.

But the thing is .. He does take it.

 

From my experience antics on the court cause trouble with other players.

 

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But the thing is .. He does take it.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing.

I guess that I am from the old school. I always enjoyed watching Tim Duncan play because he took care of business but didn't display all the antics that cause hard feelings for the other team. He showed respect and other players respected him as well. When you start getting in a players face and doing all the antics that make a player want to retaliate against you by punching you in the face then you have crossed the line. As intelligent beings we are expected not to retaliate, but why not call a technical on a player who is inciting such actions? Is it smart to let a kid run in front of the home team crowd with the team flag of the visitor? Why not let those kids poke a bees nest and see what happens? They know what they are doing as well as what reaction they are trying to elicit. But that is what is wrong with so much of what goes on in this world. Don't blame the instigators ..... they have rights too! Tell that to the bees.

I guess that I am from the old school. I always enjoyed watching Tim Duncan play because he took care of business but didn't display all the antics that cause hard feelings for the other team. He showed respect and other players respected him as well. When you start getting in a players face and doing all the antics that make a player want to retaliate against you by punching you in the face then you have crossed the line. As intelligent beings we are expected not to retaliate, but why not call a technical on a player who is inciting such actions? Is it smart to let a kid run in front of the home team crowd with the team flag of the visitor? Why not let those kids poke a bees nest and see what happens? They know what they are doing as well as what reaction they are trying to elicit. But that is what is wrong with so much of what goes on in this world. Don't blame the instigators ..... they have rights too! Tell that to the bees.

 

I hear you but Jeremiah hasn't gotten in anyone's face all season. Don't buy into the hyperbole about Jeremiah Bell.

 

The kid who ran the flag was kicked out of the game by his own principal. He poked the bee's nest and suffered the consequences.

I never did see anyone get in anyone's face and try to start trouble. (On either team) I thought it was a pretty well played game

To me, this is an intentional foul because the defender grabbed his upper arms and shoulders and held him down. It was just called a hard foul in the game. What say you referees of BGP?

 

 

I lean intentional.

I never did see anyone get in anyone's face and try to start trouble. (On either team) I thought it was a pretty well played game

 

Same thing I stated before. Less on the floor extracurricular activity than in most games I've seen this year. The only thing I noticed from Bell was what I had heard about him gesturing when playing defense. He puts a hand out towards the man he's guarding (when his man has the ball) and makes a "come to me" motion with his hand/fingers. I believe that has been deemed to be taunting in a previous game and it didn't last long in this game. I'm assuming that it was addressed by the refs (or coaches) because it only happened for a few possessions. I didn't see or hear anything else negative out of the kid the rest of the game.

I lean intentional.

 

Me too

I lean intentional.

 

I am with PP on this one. The first time I watched the video I thought it may have been intentional. The more I watch it I lean towards no. There certainly wasn't any malicious intent. I wouldn't have argued had it gone either way.

I am with PP on this one. The first time I watched the video I thought it may have been intentional. The more I watch it I lean towards no. There certainly wasn't any malicious intent. I wouldn't have argued had it gone either way.

 

Malicious intent is not the only factor.

To me, it's a double ax handle to make sure there is no dunk. I think it was 100% intentional.

That's good that someone brought it to his attention. Seems like the television networks and cable networks promote this kind of behavior for ratings. Reminds me of the WWE, all about the theatrical performance that occurs during the game.

Malicious intent is not the only factor.

 

Yes, I realize that. The first test is whether there was an attempt to make a play on the ball. The ref has to use some common sense though. If they interpret that too strictly, then just about every foul late in a game, to stop the clock and put a team on the line, would also be intentional.

 

Again, some common sense has to be used. There's no question it was the player's intent to prevent the player from getting an easy basket. I remember a play earlier in the first half that was just as "intentional" as it was committed with the same intent and was a hard foul.

But where was the play on the ball?