January 19, 201511 yr The fishing there is first class. I've never fished off that beach. I did find a lot of fish there at Spring Break in 1998 and 2000. I'll have to add it to my list though.
January 19, 201511 yr I've never fished off that beach. I did find a lot of fish there at Spring Break in 1998 and 2000. I'll have to add it to my list though. You mean crabs?
January 19, 201511 yr UkMustangFan, I completely respect you view on this, I really do. How would you determine how to hold a youth accountable for bad decisions such as this one. You must agree than age/maturity are a factor to take into account? Perhaps not? The funny thing is you two share my views on it, as does Spindoc, but I'm the one that gets asked if I have a daughter, as if that's some kind of qualification to be able to have an opinion on the subject. :lol2: :idunno:
January 19, 201511 yr UkMustangFan, I completely respect you view on this, I really do. How would you determine how to hold a youth accountable for bad decisions such as this one. You must agree than age/immaturity are a factor to take into account? Perhaps not. Is it a factor? Sure it is. That's why we have things such as juvenile detention centers. She 100% knew what she was doing, and by all accounts was the mastermind behind the whole thing. She needs to spend the rest of her childhood in a detention center.
January 19, 201511 yr Agree completely with the juvenile detention. But, you don't believe she is accountable the same way the 18 year old is? Correct? Is it a factor? Sure it is. That's why we have things such as juvenile detention centers. She 100% knew what she was doing, and by all accounts was the mastermind behind the whole thing. She needs to spend the rest of her childhood in a detention center.
January 19, 201511 yr Agree completely with the juvenile detention. But, you don't believe she is accountable the same way the 18 year old is? Correct? I don't know. If she was indeed the mastermind behind the whole thing, then yes, she 100% is every bit as accountable, if not more so.
January 19, 201511 yr So, if it is determined that she is the mastermind, she should be accountable to the fullest extent of the law, just like any adult? Age is essentially a non factor? I don't know. If she was indeed the mastermind behind the whole thing, then yes, she 100% is every bit as accountable, if not more so.
January 19, 201511 yr So, if it is determined that she is the mastermind, she should be accountable to the fullest extent of the law, just like any adult? Age is essentially a non factor? Where did I say anything even close to that? I said she needs to spend the rest of her youth in a detention center. She obviously can't, and won't be, charged as an adult. That doesn't mean she isn't as much, if not more, to blame than he is.
January 19, 201511 yr So, she is fully accountable, but will should not be punished in the same manner as an adult? Just trying to understand. Where did I say anything even close to that? I said she needs to spend the rest of her youth in a detention center. She obviously can't, and won't be, charged as an adult. That doesn't mean she isn't as much, if not more, to blame than he is.
January 19, 201511 yr So, she is fully accountable, but will should not be punished in the same manner as an adult? Just trying to understand. Well, clearly. Our court system is pretty clear the difference in punishments for minors compared to adults. I will never buy into the "she's an innocent victim" line of thinking that many in this thread have used. She knew darn well what she was doing, and needs to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law (yes, that means however a minor is dealt with in these situations).
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