As for Damon Lowe:

 

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As for the late score for Dixie, I agree that it really does not matter what the opposing coach does in a running clock situation...This is something Lucas has done at Manual many times, calling timeouts, onside kicks, et al. and shows that the other team is playing for much different reasons than winning the game...

NOW you learned what i was talking about with the "roadblock" all the other 6A nky teams have faced

Not sure I agree with your Roadblock statement. We made it to the dance. Just came away empty. The Rocks have a great team, so do we. There's no disgrace in loosing to Trinity in the State Finals or in the regular season. They are a quality team. Just as it is no disgrace to all those other teams who Dixie beat along the way to get there.

I see a few of the posts are beginning to turn it into a public/private kinda thing so here is my 2cents (coming from a public school guy)

 

Enrollment numbers of males can @ times play a role in the performance of a team, but there are exceptions to this rule. Here is a quick rundown of some of the male enrollment numbers (this info is readily available to the public on the KHSAA website)

 

School #males record

St. X 1347 (8-5)

Trinity 1269 (10-5)

Scott Co. 1243 (10-2)

Dunbar 1133 (4-7)

Henry Clay 1180 (7-3)

Eastern 1087 (2-9)

Lafayette 1005 (8-4)

Henderson Co. 961 (5-6)

Ballard 944 (10-4)

Tates Creek 933 (3-8)

Simon Kenton 903 (11-2)

Bryan Station 895 (7-5)

Meade Co 832 (11-3)

Male 782 (11-1)

Manual 769 (8-4)

Dixie Heights 746 (13-2)

Boone Co. 697 (1-10)

Southern 653 (2-9)

 

 

It just isn't that there are a large amount of male students enrolled in a school that translates to great performance on the football field unfortunately, if that was the case then Dunbar would be neck & neck with Scott Co or Henry Clay every year & that hasn't been the case since the late 90's thru the early to mid 2000's. Heck no Lexington team has come close to taking Scott Co. down from the throne that they have held onto for my recent memory, sure Station beat them this year & Lafayette played them close, but is that going to be a year in, year out kind of thing, certainly not. The idea that if a school is big & there are athletes out roaming the halls couldn't be further from the truth in my book.

 

The difference is that students that have the choice to attend a private school & have the desire to play for one of the private schools do exactly that rather than living in an attendance area & being told which high school you are to attend unless you attend out of your area in an academic program & play athletics @ the school as well. Some choose by heritage where the family has had generations of the family attend that school & I respect that tradition 100%.

 

In regards to that there is really nothing to do about it, you either get good, or get whipped the way I see it. You could transplant the best coaching staff from any school USA into a school that has achieved poorly on the field & if there isn't a decent pool of athletes to choose from (no matter the size of the student population) you will have a good coaching staff & a well coached, but not a championship caliber team.

Actually your argument goes against what you showed. Just look at the top 3 schools listed. 2 of the top 3 in male enrollment have won the 6A title the last 3 years. So to say the numbers don't make a difference is simply not accurate.When for instance next year when the realignment takes place you will have schools with almost 900 less male students competing in 6A and do you think those schools will win many 6A titles? Look at the bottom half of the list you provided. Out of that bottom half how many in the last 10 years have won state titles in football in the largest class? Sorry, but enrollment numbers do make a difference, if they didn't then Football would be like basketball and would have no classes and just 1 state football title each year.

 

I will break it down even further. Since the state went to the 6 class system, starting in 2007, all 7 years the title has been won by the top 3 schools listed, Trinity, St X and Scott Co. Back when there were 4 classes,(from 2001-2006) all the 4A titles also went to the top 3 listed.

 

So there is no proof that the number of male enrollment doesn't make much of a difference in the largest class when it comes to football state titles. From 2001-2014 the largest class in football each year has been won by 1 of the top 3 enrollment sized schools.

Enrollment numbers of males can @ times play a role in the performance of a team, but there are exceptions to this rule.

guess you missed this part of my statement Hellbird.

 

& for the record, I think that Mayfield which has like 175 males would beat any of the FCPS teams & most of the JCPS teams.

Enrollment numbers of males can @ times play a role in the performance of a team, but there are exceptions to this rule.

guess you missed this part of my statement Hellbird.

 

& for the record, I think that Mayfield which has like 175 males would beat any of the FCPS teams & most of the JCPS teams.

I read what you posted. I'm waiting for the exceptions. from 2001-2014 the top class in football has been won by 1 of the top 3 enrollment size schools. I don't see any exceptions in there. That is 14 straight years worth of state titles.

 

I agree with you in that enrollment size MAKES a difference, I just don't agree with the exceptions part you added.

I'm just glad that after the embarrassment that Trinity was to Kentucky high school football, they managed to at least win a State Championship.

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I'm just glad that after the embarrassment that Trinity was to Kentucky high school football, they managed to at least win a State Championship.

It's about time they straightened themselves out :thumb:

It's about time they straightened themselves out :thumb:

 

That one was for you.

That one was for you.

I know Thats why I love you mom!!!

I read what you posted. I'm waiting for the exceptions. from 2001-2014 the top class in football has been won by 1 of the top 3 enrollment size schools. I don't see any exceptions in there. That is 14 straight years worth of state titles.

 

I agree with you in that enrollment size MAKES a difference, I just don't agree with the exceptions part you added.

 

you hear me, you just aren't listening. I am not arguing that the top 3 of the enrollment are not good. What I am saying is that just because schools have a large enrollment they are instantly competitive enough for a state title. Look @ Paul Dunbar, huge school & haven't been .500 since 2005.

 

size of the school doesn't always mean that they will be world beaters year in & year out.

Dunbar 1133 (4-7)

Eastern 1087 (2-9)

Lafayette 1005 (8-4)

Henderson Co. 961 (5-6)

Tates Creek 933 (3-8)

Where does Bowling Green fit into the enrollment equation? They have half the male enrollment of St. X, but have beaten them in every meeting over the past four years.

 

I'm not saying that enrollment doesn't make a difference, but unless BG has some special factor to explain this discrepancy, it would seem to show that enrollment is just one factor among many.

When you throw Highlands in the mix it throws a whole lot of the higher enrollment=superior football equation out the window. They played for years a class up (and will again next year) and not only competed but dominated.

When you throw Highlands in the mix it throws a whole lot of the higher enrollment=superior football equation out the window. They played for years a class up (and will again next year) and not only competed but dominated.

 

While I believe that numbers alone are not the answer, I disagree with your comparison of what Highlands has done to Trinity X and Male in the super class. Highlands would not win many more titles if any if they were 6A.

Where does Bowling Green fit into the enrollment equation? They have half the male enrollment of St. X, but have beaten them in every meeting over the past four years.

 

I'm not saying that enrollment doesn't make a difference, but unless BG has some special factor to explain this discrepancy, it would seem to show that enrollment is just one factor among many.

 

Bowling Green has 629 males enrolled 9-12