In other words, any experienced police officer would know exactly how to frame an encounter giving him/her the POWER to stop almost anyone at anytime.

 

Kind of like saying, "I feared for my life" after shooting someone?

Kind of like saying, "I feared for my life" after shooting someone?

 

Speaking in general terms only and not about this incident, yes.

Kind of like saying, "I feared for my life" after shooting someone?

Kinda, but even though you say it, it would have to be reasonable and supported by evidence. There was a guy arrested locally this week that said the same thing basically...but if evidence doesn't back up your claim it doesn't matter what you say.

So it's not a crime to smoke weed (illegal in the state of ky), drink and drive (she wasn't even 21 yet; but still well above the legal limit for those that are 21), disregard a lawful command given by an officer (which she did) or try to run over an officer (ya did that too). I hope you never run for City Council and I'm saying 5 hat for the officers in your city.

 

I typed all of this out and then realized I was uncertain of the context of your comment. If you mean she didn't commit a crime then I stand by what I said. If you meant Deputy Brockman didn't well then that's out their for whomever wants to try and be his opposition.

 

You stating that she tried to run over an officer like it was a fact that she was trying to do that is simply not true. No where in the video did it look like she was trying to run him over, and the fact of how he ended up on the car from being on the side of the car is still in question correct? Also if she was truly trying to run him over, then the car would have got a lot further down the road because if you are trying to run someone over then I bet you would accelerate pretty fast and not start to stop and then switch gears possibly switching to go into park. So I get what you were saying, however saying she was trying to run him over like that was a fact is not true.

I really wish that was made public, it would surely put an end to some of the remarks made about how some think he ended up on the hood of the car.

 

Very true it would be nice to have as close of an idea as possible on how exactly for sure he ended up on the car.

I don't think she ever tried to run him over. I think she was trying to stop the car or put it in reverse. When the car rolled backwards it was in neutral. It is kind of hard to run someone over and accelerate when your car is neutral.

I don't think she ever tried to run him over. I think she was trying to stop the car or put it in reverse. When the car rolled backwards it was in neutral. It is kind of hard to run someone over and accelerate when your car is neutral.

Weren't there tire tracks on his boot? Also no one knows how or when the car went into neutral do they? Just speculation on how it happened.

Joker as we know the facts (as much as we can), do you think he was just in asking her to stop?

 

Hey, my apologies, I'm just seeing this. I think I logged in on my phone and didn't realize it and missed the notification.

 

Based on what I've read, it sounds like he should be in the clear on that.

 

That's just a guess based on what I've read here and assuming it's all accurate though. Texas doesn't really have roadblocks because there are so many procedural barriers to them under the Texas Constitution make them ineffective.

 

My intuition though, is that he was fine with the stop.

 

Hindsight being 20/20 and all that, when you stop someone who actually is impaired, that usually skews things in your favor all else held constant. It definitely makes any observation that you put in your report more credible in the eyes of a Judge and/or Jury, whether that is how it was actually intended to be or not.

 

I'm not really sure what the situation was as far as the party. If he were stopping 20 or so cars and making them file out one-by-one, then it's going to be a higher burden on him. That doesn't mean it's impossible, just that for every car that was stopped and the longer they sat there, the burden starts shifting. You can check for drunk drivers (Michigan v. Sitz), but that's about the limit on it and you have to keep it very brief. I'm not really sure if Kentucky, like Texas, puts anything else on top of that which kind of tilts the scales more toward the driver, as some states offer their own (State) Constitutional protections past what the Federal Constitution gives.

 

If he's got a report (especially of a specific car or something like that), if the car is speeding, if the car is weaving, or if he is just setting up a roadblock that is compliant with Kentucky laws (which, again, I don't know), then he's most likely fine. The biggest issues are probably the content of the report he was given that brought him to the scene, what he observed from the car, and whatever Kentucky law is on roadblocks if that's what it was considered (those are off the top of my head).

 

Honestly I haven't seen the video and don't know enough about the situation and what's going on with the laws in Kentucky. However, if it's a situation where people are actually trespassing and there's a report of it, then I'd think he's easily in the clear.

I don't think she ever tried to run him over. I think she was trying to stop the car or put it in reverse. When the car rolled backwards it was in neutral. It is kind of hard to run someone over and accelerate when your car is neutral.

 

No, but you can rev the heck out of an engine and scare the daylights out of someone, including yourself if you didn't prepare for it.

Weren't there tire tracks on his boot? Also no one knows how or when the car went into neutral do they? Just speculation on how it happened.

 

According to the reports last thing she did was throw her hands up. So she must have tried to throw it in park before she got shot?

Weren't there tire tracks on his boot? Also no one knows how or when the car went into neutral do they? Just speculation on how it happened.

 

The tire tracks are probably from when he jumped off and his boot hit the tire.

According to the reports last thing she did was throw her hands up. So she must have tried to throw it in park before she got shot?

 

May have just knocked it out of gear when she was shot, no way of knowing that she was trying to park or back up.

May have just knocked it out of gear when she was shot, no way of knowing that she was trying to park or back up.

 

Her hands where up in the air when she got shot. Actually both arms where shot.

The tire tracks are probably from when he jumped off and his boot hit the tire.

How does he fall of and hit his boot against the tire hard enough to leave tire tracks on his boot while also injuring his foot as seen in the photos. Those photos look to be of a foot that was either fully or partially ran over, not of a foot that just hit a tire.

How does he fall of and hit his boot against the tire hard enough to leave tire tracks on his boot while also injuring his foot as seen in the photos. Those photos look to be of a foot that was either fully or partially ran over, not of a foot that just hit a tire.

 

If he jumped off of the side of the car his boot could have went under the car and the tire ran it over when it was rolling backwards?