Here's the positive of the 1st round. 98% of the games are just not interesting if you do not have a rooting interest and are just looking for a good game to attend.

 

So you say to your bride: Honey, I see enough football games. THIS Friday (it's key to emphasize THIS to not leave any doubt) I'm going to make it all about us. You and me. What would you like to do?

 

Win Win. You don't watch bad games and you build up some points for later.

That is pretty much the way it is now. I agree with Little Ram's suggestion about having 3 teams from each district get in. I do think too many teams get in but there is no use worrying about it (so I don't) because it will not change any time soon.

Here's the positive of the 1st round. 98% of the games are just not interesting if you do not have a rooting interest and are just looking for a good game to attend.

 

So you say to your bride: Honey, I see enough football games. THIS Friday (it's key to emphasize THIS to not leave any doubt) I'm going to make it all about us. You and me. What would you like to do?

 

Win Win. You don't watch bad games and you build up some points for later.

 

Smooth Clyde...smooth...

That is pretty much the way it is now. I agree with Little Ram's suggestion about having 3 teams from each district get in. I do think too many teams get in but there is no use worrying about it (so I don't) because it will not change any time soon.

The funny thing is, the coaches and AD's voting for four teams making the playoffs each year.

 

Can someone post the voting results for last year? Clyde, do you have it?

The funny thing is, the coaches and AD's voting for four teams making the playoffs each year.

 

Can someone post the voting results for last year? Clyde, do you have it?

 

No clue where you would find that.

I believe we have #4 seeds win first round games every year. This year you may see zero win four seed team win a first round game - Somerset. We have seen #4 seed teams win more than one game in the playoffs. My question is this - why does it bother anyone that 90% of the first round games are blowouts? On virtually every level of every sport people want to see more teams in the playoffs. But for some reason people don't want more teams in the Kentucky football playoffs. I really don't understand the problem with it.

I know for a fact the last two years Raceland has lost money on both first round games. Last year, the first round opponent brought 5 people. Five (5). Plus, you have to factor in, some of the home fans stay home or go to other games because the out come is a forgone conclusion. And, no fans of other schools are coming to a certain blowout.

 

Seriously, five fans.

 

So it isn't because of money as East Raider said it was "plain and simple". Not so simple I guess.

I think if the KHSAA would offer the best of both worlds to the schools, you would see a different vote.

 

First, a five class system pretty much guarantees that a school has to win to get in the playoffs. That takes care of the 0-10 teams. Still could have a 1-9, but most districts would require two wins.

 

If you stay with 6 classes, break them up evenly and allow a little flexibility to make sure districts have at least five teams.

 

Or, take top 3 and allow schools that are not making the playoffs the option to schedule one last game with another school in the same situation, so they could have another football gate. Schools usually know if they will make it or not, so this could be worked out during the year.

 

Football gates help fund other sports. So an extra $1000 may be worth it to some schools to go play in the current system.

I My question is this - why does it bother anyone that 90% of the first round games are blowouts? On virtually every level of every sport people want to see more teams in the playoffs. But for some reason people don't want more teams in the Kentucky football playoffs. I really don't understand the problem with it.

The argument I am suppling here is the argument that the players don't want to be in the playoffs. Has nothing to do with my thoughts, these are the players saying they don't want it. I'm trying to make their voice heard, after all the argument for them being in the playoffs is said to be for their benefit. So, if they don't want it, what is the argument for it?

So it isn't because of money as East Raider said it was "plain and simple". Not so simple I guess.

Nope. That is why Raceland votes for three teams each year, Raceland losses money every year.

I believe we have #4 seeds win first round games every year. This year you may see zero win four seed team win a first round game - Somerset. We have seen #4 seed teams win more than one game in the playoffs. My question is this - why does it bother anyone that 90% of the first round games are blowouts? On virtually every level of every sport people want to see more teams in the playoffs. But for some reason people don't want more teams in the Kentucky football playoffs. I really don't understand the problem with it.

 

Why do you want them in the playoffs?

 

My thoughts are this: more players are susceptible to injury, schools lose money, most schools didn't earn the bid to get in, and most of those teams don't want to be there period. Other schools have to fight for playoff spots-- 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A schools. Top three teams, first seed with a bye, like I said before. It would build more competition.

I think this has been done to death, but I chime in every year. I'm not a fan of the six class system at all, and I'm not a fan of virtually every team in the state making the playoffs in an already watered down system.

 

On Ram's point, I think most host schools lose money on first round playoff games. Money isn't the motivating factor. Football is an expensive sport, it's not the cash cow some would assume.

 

I look at the first round brackets and some of the games make me cringe. Beechwood-Bracken County for example. The teams are in different stratosphere's. How is this game productive for anyone in any way?

None ... not one, notta, 0, nothing ......Have I made myself understood ?? :lol2:

 

Seriously, imo the problem here is the problem with America today. Not Everyone Wins / advances in life. After all, we say football teaches a young man about life lessons. This everyone/4 teams advancing teaches the Exact opposite. Everyone doesn't win / succeed in life..

My point is that as is now, this theory of four teams advancing is teaching that if you fail every time on any job (game) that's put before you - you get promoted (advance to playoff). I, personally have never worked, seen or heard about a job like that in existence,.......anywhere.

Another example is in district 7 vs.. 8 this season. 1 seed in D7, Raceland will host 4 seed in D8, Phelps. Phelps is 0 - 9 - 1 on their season. The one team that they played to a Tie has Won a whopping total of One game. That's two teams, 20 games and ONE win total between them. There is No scenario in adult life or in any sport that a team with this kind of season/ win total of 0 that anyone can convince me should be rewarded.......None.

 

Another Example -- I know that when I was young in yout sports, there was a time that they had little league try outs, not all kids made the team. I was one of those very disappointed kids one summer, I was hurt - yep, even cried. I worked harder, played ball all summer in backyard / neighborhood games. practiced hitting, throwing a lot, sometimes in throwing a rubber ball against a wall to work on "grounders", catching, etc.. and got people to throw to me when I could and too long a story to short -- I made the team the next summer, wasn't great by anyone's description but I made the team and I played. That, to me anyway teaches that if you want to "advance", you have to work to get better. Anyway, I respect other pinions that disagree and I am off my soap box now, :stop: :lol2:

Nope. That is why Raceland votes for three teams each year, Raceland losses money every year.

 

:thumb: With three teams it rewards a district champion with a first round bye. Other words - being champion of a district means something in the playoff advantage. No first round game / time to let nagging injuries rest - that all have this time of season.

 

Another point is just me but if I am on a last place / 4th place tean that has won just a very few, in some cases ZERO or only ONE game then the Last Thing that I want to do is to suit up, play a championship team and get embarrassed again.

I see nothing good in the current playoff system. We have too many teams and too many classes. Add an eleventh regular season game, cut to four classes, and reduce playoff entrants/district to two.

 

KY just doesn't have the population to justify the current system.

 

With that said, I realize for some teams that have trouble getting teams on their schedule, this is at least a guaranteed game for them. But, even with the occasional upset, there are far too many 3-4 hour bus trips that end with a running clock. I guess you could avoid this by going intra-district first - this would at least cut down on travel.

 

I thought the playoff system from the late 80's-early 90's made the most sense. But, if the 0-10 programs don't mind getting their ars whipped, I guess who am I to care.