This kids life is going to be a train wreck regardless.

I don't get it.

 

No matter how we dress, act, talk, etc... Every single person on this earth is unique. There is not and never will be another being on this earth with the same fingerprint, hand print, or DNA in general. This little 7 year old boy's mother needs to embrace the fact that her child is different from every other kid just as he was born.

 

Hopefully it works out for the kid and he comes to accept his true identity (if it was even his choice to "change" to a girl).

Would you personally prefer to dress differently, but conform because it is easier?

 

I'm completely content with dressing with what is socially accepted as being a way that a man dresses.

 

I have no desire to go out of the norm, nor do I have any interest in dressing in what is considered to be feminine clothing typically designed for woman.

 

I was raised with "boy" clothing selected by my parents and never felt like I'd rather wear "girl" clothing.

 

Since wearing this style from early on, it's what I'm comfortable in and used to.

 

As I had mentioned in my first post, If I wanted to make some sort of outward statement (I don't) to society and wear unusual clothing (that doesn't necessarily mean feminine as I theoretically could choose to wear items found in other parts of the world not common wear I live, or even design my own original garments) it would be a waste of time because a very small percentage would understand what I might be trying to say, and as I also mentioned I'm not interested in drawing attention to myself for anonymity I feel makes life simpler than to have people give you trouble, as history shows, they will.

 

All in all, I too am a product of my social conditioning and well before I had any input on what I might wear, my parents lead by social convention, dressed me in socially acceptable clothing which is satisfactory to my needs to add warmth from the winter elements, or cover my skin from the sun in the summertime, and cover my feet to avoid injury.

 

With that said, I still understand that alcoholic beverages, like many seem to think, have no gender just as much as articles of clothing designated to be socially agreed on have no gender, as it's just material.

 

Yes underwear is designed to have bigger crotches for men's support, and woman's panties don't need so much room.

 

Other than that for the most part we designate articles of clothing to be considered gender related because that's just how we as humanity roll, but in other parts of the world that socially accepted type clothing often times are of completely different designs than of that which we consider to be normal here in this part of the world, so it's all relative to where you were raised and what your eyes see as normal from past conditioning.

I tried to read it all, I got most of it. But the bolded is 100% biochemically untrue regardless of your social stance on the issue. Totally false.

 

Would you care to expand to back up your claims.

 

I was generally speaking of our lack of knowledge of anything masculine or feminine related to, and mostly in our outward signs of clothing, when we our born and how we are from day one taught the cosmetic differences of what society has assigned and accepted as the norm for us in our dress. We don't get to see many examples of humans left to their own devices, so it's not completely apparent what I aim to point out. I did say that there's a definite difference in body parts etc... but as we are all born naked the rest is drag...

 

Anyhow, I'd be interested in hearing how what you bolded is 100 % incorrect. Saying it doesn't make it so as you're entitled to leave it at that, but in general when folks make claims such as you did most might expect that you'd back it up with an explanation.

I realize that many might not understand what I'm saying. That's just the common nature of humanity.

 

The majority of the world behave with little understanding of the psychological and social conditioning regarding human behavior that makes them tick. They tend to be too close to the forest to see the trees.

 

Some have evolved with a certain interest in the Philosophy of Human Behavior therefore they tend to study and analyze humans like lab rats.

 

Although the evidence is right in all of our faces on a daily basis, typically only a very small percentage see it for what it is or truly understand it, and most are so effected by their conditioning that they can't.

 

That's not to say that those who study and analyze humans are also not a product of their conditioning.

 

No one escapes that.

Would you care to expand to back up your claims.

 

I was generally speaking of our lack of knowledge of anything masculine or feminine related to, and mostly in our outward signs of clothing, when we our born and how we are from day one taught the cosmetic differences of what society has assigned and accepted as the norm for us in our dress. We don't get to see many examples of humans left to their own devices, so it's not completely apparent what I aim to point out. I did say that there's a definite difference in body parts etc... but as we are all born naked the rest is drag...

 

Anyhow, I'd be interested in hearing how what you bolded is 100 % incorrect. Saying it doesn't make it so as you're entitled to leave it at that, but in general when folks make claims such as you did most might expect that you'd back it up with an explanation.

Hormonally speaking males and females are destined to portray certain characteristics. That's just simple chemistry. Male hormones, female hormones, from very early stages in our existence are different. That's just fact. And in that sense, it's 100% innate. There's no amount of programming that can change it. To think you can simply mold that out or into someone is hogwash, with all due respect. Look, I always respect and and am thankful for your perspective. But in this instance it's simply biology and chemistry that make male and female different. No different than hundreds of species on the planet. Unless I misunderstood your post, I just can't agree with that notion that it's socialized into our species.

Hormonally speaking males and females are destined to portray certain characteristics. That's just simple chemistry. Male hormones, female hormones, from very early stages in our existence are different. That's just fact. And in that sense, it's 100% innate. There's no amount of programming that can change it. To think you can simply mold that out or into someone is hogwash, with all due respect. Look, I always respect and and am thankful for your perspective. But in this instance it's simply biology and chemistry that make male and female different. No different than hundreds of species on the planet. Unless I misunderstood your post, I just can't agree with that notion that it's socialized into our species.

 

You are correct...you did misunderstand my post... When it comes to your points regarding hormones and chemistry I completely agree.

 

My points were not in reference to the chemical differences between males and females as I did mention that they do indeed exist.

 

It was related to the social conditioning that we all tend to be raised with making us see those things as normal and innate when they are in essence a result of applications applied to the fact that there are differences in the male/female makeup.

 

Worldwide it's an obvious social distinction to dress boys differently from girls to differentiate them, but as we never experience anything differently than that from the time we are born, we tend to think that that in itself is innate, when it's merely a result of mass social conditioning of an actual mass accepted concept perpetually passed along rather than a natural phenomenon.

 

I'm not suggesting a big shake up in the way people dress, I'm just observing it for what it is, and that we are socially conditioned towards dressing gender "appropriately" and that society as a whole tend not to be too kind if one strays from that accepted norm that is not even an innate trait, but learned.

 

Throughout history humanity in general has shown a displeasure for anything that doesn't fall into the social norms, and depending on what year we're talking about, or what part of the world...it's all the same everywhere even though it will gradually and slowly alter from generation to generation, and at various paces from culture to culture. In essence, it's actually a very normal trait of humans to disapprove. It could actually somehow be related to a survival factor that makes humans innately not want anything to disrupt the furthering of the species.

Dude this lady airmailed social norms with her 7yr old.

I don't agree that a 7 yr old knows exactly what they want, they may have a feeling about this , but I agree to allow the kid to wait.

 

Having said that, I don't agree that parents should pull there kids from the class.

I don't agree that a 7 yr old knows exactly what they want, they may have a feeling about this , but I agree to allow the kid to wait.

 

Having said that, I don't agree that parents should pull there kids from the class.

 

In all seriousness what if you as a parent knew your kid wasn't mature enough to handle this situation. I just don't see how we could expect 7 year olds to handle this in a mature fashion or some may even be freaked out.

 

Even if the mother is correct on her child which I don't see how you can be at 7 years old. How is this healthy for the child to go through what is inevitable with immature classmates at a young age. Kids mock a lot less , I just don't see how encouraging this behavior is healthy at a young age.

 

I mean I'm not a parent but since when do young kids actually know who they are and what they want.

I don't agree that a 7 yr old knows exactly what they want, they may have a feeling about this , but I agree to allow the kid to wait.

 

Having said that, I don't agree that parents should pull there kids from the class.

 

Though I personally didn't experience desires as a child to look and behave as a girl, I did already have clear knowledge that I was supposed to by society's standards develop into a straight male.

 

I was already aware at age 7 and even before adolescence that something was different with me, but didn't know why, and by adolescence it became even more and more clear to me how I was wired.

 

I knew that it was something that I would be ridiculed about, and wouldn't be accepted if I had divulged this inner knowledge of myself. It was clear to me that I had to keep it a secret.

 

I decided to wait until I was an adult with a job to reveal this information to my family and friends in an effort to once and for all try to live freely as who I truly was and not have to fake my entire life.

 

As hard as it was to stay silent all of those years, I realize that I had to to avoid suffering social troubles.

 

In today's more acceptant world, some kids are trying to come out before they're actually adults and in many cases it's not working out too well for them with their peers. I feel sorry for those who are pretty sure their parents won't understand, but if they're lucky enough to have parents that might, then I'd advise them for the sake of not suffocating forever to share this with their folks, but keep it under wraps with others until they are old enough to live their own adult life.

 

In this case I think I lean towards agreeing with what you're saying here about waiting because even though this boy might want to live as a girl, he/she better have some very thick skin because he/she is going to inevitably experience a whole lot of ridicule his/her entire childhood. More power to him/her if he/she can pull it off, but it's most certainly not going to be easy.

I would hope Child Service's would be all over this one atleast to talk to the "boy" and mother.

If I was the parent of one of this child's classmates, I would definately encourage my child to be kind to him/her. That child has a long hard road ahead. On the other hand I must admit that I would be concerned if my child picked him/her as a close friend. Childhood should be a carefree time and I am not sure I would want my child involved in such a difficult situation at such a young age. I am not saying I would not allow them to play together, but I would definately be concerned.

 

In all honesty, would have to know the whole family dynamic to know for sure. When my kids were growing up, there were a couple of instances where my kids were not allowed to hang around other kids. In both situations, the kids behavior was worrisome, but a look at the parents explained it all.

In all seriousness what if you as a parent knew your kid wasn't mature enough to handle this situation. I just don't see how we could expect 7 year olds to handle this in a mature fashion or some may even be freaked out.

 

Even if the mother is correct on her child which I don't see how you can be at 7 years old. How is this healthy for the child to go through what is inevitable with immature classmates at a young age. Kids mock a lot less , I just don't see how encouraging this behavior is healthy at a young age.

 

I mean I'm not a parent but since when do young kids actually know who they are and what they want.

 

So we all knew that little girl who was a Tomboy. She played with the boys, and for the most part they liked having her play with them. The girls just accepted that too. And we all know that little boy who wanted to play with the girls, be it pretend games, "house", dolls, barbies---and the girls were fine with it. (I mean, somebody had to be the dad.) The other boys maybe teased him some, but at least he still had the girls to play with.

 

So why can't the mom just let him be the boy who likes to play with girls stuff? 7-yrs old too young for this drastic identity declaration.

So we all knew that little girl who was a Tomboy. She played with the boys, and for the most part they liked having her play with them. The girls just accepted that too. And we all know that little boy who wanted to play with the girls, be it pretend games, "house", dolls, barbies---and the girls were fine with it. (I mean, somebody had to be the dad.) The other boys maybe teased him some, but at least he still had the girls to play with.

 

So why can't the mom just let him be the boy who likes to play with girls stuff? 7-yrs old too young for this drastic identity declaration.

 

Because she's an attention seeking moron more interested in the publicity of it all than the affect it will have on her child and those around her child? Just a stab in the dark here.