And Greenwood is a softball magnet and Warren Central is a basketball magnet and you have said nothing to address the truth of my statement. People don't knock down the doors to those 2 schools because the county board has chosen to draw district lines where the majority of affluent families go to Greenwood and South Warren. South Warren is the only one even close to competing academically. Self inflicted wounds by the county board.

 

Never said it was the city's fault did I? Merely pointing out that BG does get an advantage. I knew several kids who lived in the county but when to BG. They have a great school system.

 

FWIW, Greenwood is still the top academic county school.

 

And yeah, the county board dropped the ball, but what can you do now? Things are ugly here.

The actual numbers say South Warren is the top academic school. Their average ACT score was even higher than BG this year. Greenwood was a distant 3rd.

Never said it was the city's fault did I? Merely pointing out that BG does get an advantage. I knew several kids who lived in the county but when to BG. They have a great school system.

 

FWIW, Greenwood is still the top academic county school.

 

And yeah, the county board dropped the ball, but what can you do now? Things are ugly here.

Advantage over whom? St.X? You've got to be confused. Being better at something than other people is not advantage. (many in this state want to claim it is) Advantage is defined as being in a position to do something that others are not. By definition the Warren county schools are not at disadvantage.

Never said it was the city's fault did I? Merely pointing out that BG does get an advantage. I knew several kids who lived in the county but when to BG. They have a great school system.

 

FWIW, Greenwood is still the top academic county school.

 

And yeah, the county board dropped the ball, but what can you do now? Things are ugly here.

 

I hear it is still ugly in BG. I'm not sure it will ever resolve itself.

Advantage over whom? St.X? You've got to be confused. Being better at something than other people is not advantage. (many in this state want to claim it is) Advantage is defined as being in a position to do something that others are not. By definition the Warren county schools are not at disadvantage.

 

Like I said, didn't want to get into it.

 

Bowling Green has the advantage of being allocated X amount of county kids, I think the number being thrown around has been 750.

 

Like I'll say until I'm blue in the face, they are one of, if not the best schools in the city/county. They always have been, always will be. But to not acknowledge that some of the success of the school, both academic and athletic, is due to the fact that the county kids go there, is ignorant.

I hear it is still ugly in BG. I'm not sure it will ever resolve itself.

 

It should've been resolved already, but the County wants to bleed it out. :ohbrother:

The number is k-12. Still no advantage because an unlimited number go from city district to county.

 

And yeah, the county board dropped the ball, but what can you do now? Things are ugly here.

 

BJack,

 

Seems to me that a new leadership on the county board is needed. I moved to Louisville from BG in 95 so I don't claim to know all the ends and outs for sure, but it appears from what I've heard it doesn't seem to be an even playing field within the county. I'm sure good ole boy politics are involved too.

When you consider the size advantage that ST X has with 1500 or so boys (correct me if I'm wrong)...they should be dominating. Their history is richer but they should dominate. To me that makes BG's accomplishments that much more higher than what X has done. Really the fact that BG beat them 4 in a row is something that shouldn't happen at X. I have a feeling they will be turning it around, but my vote is BG here.

BJack,

 

Seems to me that a new leadership on the county board is needed. I moved to Louisville from BG in 95 so I don't claim to know all the ends and outs for sure, but it appears from what I've heard it doesn't seem to be an even playing field within the county. I'm sure good ole boy politics are involved too.

 

You got it absolutely right.

 

Being a WC grad, it's a tough pill to swallow seeing your school treated the way it has been in the past decade. I'm sure the same can be said for the Warren East contingents.

The number is k-12. Still no advantage because an unlimited number go from city district to county.

 

You believe what you want. The numbers regarding city-to-county and county-to-city students are not even close.

When you consider the size advantage that ST X has with 1500 or so boys (correct me if I'm wrong)...they should be dominating. Their history is richer but they should dominate. To me that makes BG's accomplishments that much more higher than what X has done. Really the fact that BG beat them 4 in a row is something that shouldn't happen at X. I have a feeling they will be turning it around, but my vote is BG here.

 

(Hey Brown, watch me stir the pot with this one!)

 

St X may not have lost 4 times in a row if they haven't made a coaching change.:sneaky:

FWIW, I think head-to-head matchups give BG the edge here.

 

BG does have 3 titles to X's 2, but X had to get through T/Male/Manual/etc. to earn those. I give the advantage here to X.

 

BG has better W-L. BG gets it there.

 

BG has done better in the head-to-heads matchups.

The number is k-12. Still no advantage because an unlimited number go from city district to county.

 

For information purposes:

 

328 nonresident students from Warren County attended BGHS last year (or 27.29% of the entire school), per Bowling Green's brief. I think it's in there somewhere as to how many go to Warren County Schools (in that case K-12), but I can't find it. Latest I could find was on their facilities plan from 2012 which listed 2011 numbers, when 863 total students (which would have included CDEs) K-12 went from Warren County to Bowling Green, and 42 came back. I'd say it is safe to say the number is probably still significantly higher, but then, so is Warren County's total student base.

 

BJack,

 

Seems to me that a new leadership on the county board is needed. I moved to Louisville from BG in 95 so I don't claim to know all the ends and outs for sure, but it appears from what I've heard it doesn't seem to be an even playing field within the county. I'm sure good ole boy politics are involved too.

 

If you'd ever like to see me get fired up over a subject, it would be on how the county is run and what they have done to Warren Central. And really how they've ignored Warren East for years too. They play favorites, it's a shell game. Warren Central was their darling until it was too big and had to split. Then it was Greenwood. Now it is South Warren. They are a group that has never seemed to plan more than a couple of years in front of them. They are slowly hurting Greenwood in multiple ways and they have left Warren Central for dead. There will probably come a time when South Warren will be on the outs too, just give it a generation.

 

I personally do see Bowling Green's situation as an advantage, but an advantage that Warren County themselves has helped aid too. There was an outcry after all of this started that Bowling Green's school district should match the city limits. I personally do not think Bowling Green would even want this if it were legal. It would add a good amount to their current enrollment base and I believe would make it difficult to maintain their single school system. At minimum they would have to expand the high school and would easily jump into 6A. The way it is set up now, Bowling Green enjoys the benefits of an easier to maintain system that is smaller and more compact and a district location that endears itself to transfer (schools near downtown where people work and therefore makes it easier to be closer to their children - school right next to WKU, etc.). I do consider it an advantage. Bowling Green has made their own advantages in many ways by simply running circles around Warren County in how they administrate, pay teachers, etc., and what that has done is magnify those advantages tenfold. Anyone can be given a leg up on someone else, but if you do not maximize it, it's nothing. Bowling Green maximizes it big time. Warren County shoots themselves in their own foot because they are incapable of planning properly for the future, and they keep diluting everything. They have to allocate large amounts of money to maintaining "equal" athletics facilities, which basically keeps them in a constant state of renovation. They have to pay their coaches the exact same stipends, which makes it difficult to competitively pursue and keep them. They are atrocious in what they pay their teachers I'm told. Simply put, in my opinion, they have too many schools.

 

Wheeling it back to a football discussion, Warren County will never, ever, EVER catch Bowling Green with the way they have done things. They think South Warren is the answer but it is not and it will be proven time and again. They dismantled the only program around here that ever in any way competed with them, and even that was up and down since the time they split Greenwood off of Warren Central. I view things in much the same way I view Florida/Kentucky football. I feel Greenwood will never beat Bowling Green, or at the very least I will never witness it. I feel there's a good chance that unless Warren Central jumps up big time to pop them in one of these two years that they will be in the same boat. And I feel that South Warren will fall into that category. Warren East is virtually unchanged and who knows when they'll even play them again - obviously they won't win if they don't play. Bowling Green was always a cut above these programs and the gap has become a chasm. And Bowling Green will not be slowing down if the status quo remains in the county, meaning Bowling Green will continue to be a dominant program. They were a powerhouse since the 80s to begin with.

 

If you'd ever like to see me get fired up over a subject, it would be on how the county is run and what they have done to Warren Central.

 

Simply put, in my opinion, they have too many schools.

 

[/quote}] Dragonfire, I didn't mean to get you stirred up, but honestly I'm glad I did because this catches me up to where things really are now in BG.

When you said "they have too many schools" did you mean they have too many schools for this school board to handle or they should build more schools in the county to accomodate the growth?

 

I also appreciate your candid take on this. You didn't cry (although if I were in your shoes and I remember the Joe Hood teams with Damon Hood, Chris Potter and the other awesome athletic teams that were around in my day I might) about it.

 

4A is the land of milk and honey; go forth and prosper! :thumb: