^ This was true at the University of Evansville as well. If I had a dollar for every kid who had never drank alcohol that I saw take their first drink and wind up basically an alcoholic a few weeks later.

Yes, yes I do. When I was an underage drinker, the ones who always were the most out-of-control were the kids from the hardcore Protestant families. When I went on to college at WKU, invariably the first people to pass out at the party were kids from dry counties, which are almost exclusively Baptist.

 

I am a firm believer that this phenomenon has to do with gramma and momma implanting stupid ideas in their kids' head that one drink will make you lose control. Even though momma and gramma probably never drank themselves and have no way of personally knowing alcohol's affect on their body.

 

 

 

I say people should know their own limitations and act responsibly rather than giving in to the mysticism about alcohol implanted into their brains by their Bible-tossing moms and grannys.

 

First bolded...so it couldn't possibly be that those kids maybe were the ones drinking 10 cups of the bathtub "hooch" along with a few shots of cheap bourbon just for good measure, instead of nursing a cup or two over the few hours of the night like the ones who were responsible. No, couldn't possibly be that.

 

Second bolded...I completely agree. But here's the problem. Some...more than a few...people don't know their limitations and/or lose them as soon as they start drinking...and for part of that some, 0 is their limit yet they drink anyway.

 

Again, I'm no prude. I went to the same type parties you did Jim when younger, doing my share of irresponsible drinking when I knew better and making a grand fool of myself. Luckily it didn't take me long to figure out that's not a good thing. Problem is, it takes some a lot longer, and some never do, figure it out.

So because some don't know their limits, no one should be allowed? Doesn't make any sense to me.

I've been to hundreds and hundreds of concerts, and more than my fair share of ballgames. I can recall only a handful of times where I've had somebody spill a beer on me. Just doesn't happen very often.

 

I tune out obnoxious behavior by others, so it doesn't really bother me much.

 

My guess is that you are hyper-tuned to notice it because of where you're from, and you automatically assume a person drinking can't control themselves.

 

No, not at all. If people can or can't control themselves is on them, me assuming or not assuming what their behavior may be doesn't change it. I'm not "Hyper-Tuned" to it either I've been around drinking my entire life and have done plenty of drinking myself. But when people infringe on my personal space because they are drunk it doesn't take someone "Hyper-Tuned" to be put off by it.

So because some don't know their limits, no one should be allowed? Doesn't make any sense to me.

 

They can drink all they want, it just doesn't belong at youth sports.

First bolded...so it couldn't possibly be that those kids maybe were the ones drinking 10 cups of the bathtub "hooch" along with a few shots of cheap bourbon just for good measure, instead of nursing a cup or two over the few hours of the night like the ones who were responsible. No, couldn't possibly be that.

 

Look, I'm not debating alcohol's affects on a person. I have been drunk many, many times, and guess what? It's because I went over my limitations. It wasn't the alcohol's fault; it was mine.

 

When I got to college at WKU, many people were floored at how well I could hold my composure in the face of heavy drinking, while the rest of them were falling all over themselves after a couple beers. It's because I know how to pace myself, and I was able to adjust my behavior to retain control.

 

Others didn't, and more often than not it's because college was the first time they ever had a drink. And it showed.

 

Second bolded...I completely agree. But here's the problem. Some...more than a few...people don't know their limitations and/or lose them as soon as they start drinking...and for part of that some, 0 is their limit yet they drink anyway.

 

They should learn to control themselves and shed the mindset taught to them by their mommas and grannys that alcohol consumption = no control.

 

Again, I'm no prude. I went to the same type parties you did Jim when younger, doing my share of irresponsible drinking when I knew better and making a grand fool of myself. Luckily it didn't take me long to figure out that's not a good thing. Problem is, it takes some a lot longer, and some never do, figure it out.

 

Hats off to you for learning your limitations and adjusting accordingly. Too bad not enough people can, which spoils it for the rest of who are able to.

First bolded...so it couldn't possibly be that those kids maybe were the ones drinking 10 cups of the bathtub "hooch" along with a few shots of cheap bourbon just for good measure, instead of nursing a cup or two over the few hours of the night like the ones who were responsible. No, couldn't possibly be that.

 

I think what he's saying is that when people come from backgrounds with little or no experience with it and have been taught that it is a taboo jump straight into the "getting wild" stage because that's what they think it's for and have never been exposed to it being used more moderately. I think that's part of it, and certainly youth is another part.

I think what he's saying is that when people come from backgrounds with little or no experience with it and have been taught that it is a taboo jump straight into the "getting wild" stage because that's what they think it's for and have never been exposed to it being used more moderately. I think that's part of it, and certainly youth is another part.

 

Bingo. :thumb:

I think what he's saying is that when people come from backgrounds with little or no experience with it and have been taught that it is a taboo jump straight into the "getting wild" stage because that's what they think it's for and have never been exposed to it being used more moderately. I think that's part of it, and certainly youth is another part.

 

And that's my point...many times those are the ones drinking 10 cups of bathtub hooch the first hour they are at a party and losing all sense of control...they aren't getting smashed on 2 sips of whiskey. Sure there are some "2 can Sams" out there, but it's the complete irresponsibleness and overindulgence that's going on is the point I'm trying to make.

And that's my point...many times those are the ones drinking 10 cups of bathtub hooch the first hour they are at a party and losing all sense of control...they aren't getting smashed on 2 sips of whiskey. Sure there are some "2 can Sams" out there, but it's the complete irresponsibleness and overindulgence that's going on is the point I'm trying to make.

 

But that's still on the individual to know their limitations. It's not the alcohol's fault.

Back on topic and to add a little context. The Northern Kentucky Swim League is made of private swim clubs and 2 public swim clubs that each set their own rules as to alcohol. The NKSL only has rules as to adults working the meet. The host pool does not have a liquor license, but does permit individuals to BYOB.

Back on topic and to add a little context. The Northern Kentucky Swim League is made of private swim clubs and 2 public swim clubs that each set their own rules as to alcohol. The NKSL only has rules as to adults working the meet. The host pool does not have a liquor license, but does permit individuals to BYOB.

I can't believe people think they need to drink at a swim meet :idunno:

I hope some of you never take your kid with you to store because they sell beer.

I don't think alcohol sales should be allowed at youth sporting events. The venues that typically sell alcohol are larger places that host tournaments. Therefore, it becomes day-long drinking by parents, not just a beer or two during a game. I'm also one that believes coaches shouldn't be dipping while coaching little kids either.

 

I was at a youth football game (8/9 year olds) a few years ago where 2 moms walked in with the football team, each carrying a toolbox. They then proceeded to the stands where they pulled a cup out of their purse, opened the toolbox, pulled the top tray out, and pulled a beer out. They had them packed with beer and ice to watch 1 football game. I've also seen a guy get so drunk during 1 u6 soccer game at Pleasure Isle about 4 years ago, that the police were called so the guy didn't drive away with his daughter.

That's my first reaction. It's not like your kid can drive you home after the game.

I hope some of you never take your kid with you to store because they sell beer.

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