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Bird or Dirk?

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I thought the guy's name was Nicks (without Googling).

 

Good call. It was Nicks.

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Has Dirk had as much around him as Larry Legend did?

Good call. It was Nicks.

 

I couldn't remember the first name. But I remember Nicks as being probably the second-best player on the team.

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Has Dirk had as much around him as Larry Legend did?

 

I will assume that's rhetorical since McHale, Parish, and Dennis Johnson are all in the Naismith HOF.

I will assume that's rhetorical since McHale, Parish, and Dennis Johnson are all in the Naismith HOF.

Could be argued they wouldn't have been elected without him

I will assume that's rhetorical since McHale, Parish, and Dennis Johnson are all in the Naismith HOF.

 

Yes. Rhetorical is the word I would use.:D

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Could be argued they wouldn't have been elected without him

 

One of my arguments for Bird was the "he makes everyone better" argument.

 

But let's not lose perspective. They were GREAT players with or without Larry Legend.

 

Bird didn't teach McHale his post moves.

One of my arguments for Bird was the "he makes everyone better" argument.

 

But let's not lose perspective. They were GREAT players with or without Larry Legend.

 

Bird didn't teach McHale his post moves.

 

But he got him the ball and because Bird was there it gave McHale more room to operate.

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But he got him the ball and because Bird was there it gave McHale more room to operate.

 

Again, he made them better. He didn't , though, take them from average NBA players to the HOF.

Again, he made them better. He didn't , though, take them from average NBA players to the HOF.

 

They were above average but not sure if they are HOFer without Bird.

 

Safe to say they all made each other better.

One of my arguments for Bird was the "he makes everyone better" argument.

 

But let's not lose perspective. They were GREAT players with or without Larry Legend.

 

Bird didn't teach McHale his post moves.

No doubt. But they don't win rings without him. And without the rings their resume' simply not as good.

Again, he made them better. He didn't , though, take them from average NBA players to the HOF.

 

Yes, but there are players in between there, too. As you have pointed out when discussing baseball's HOF contenders...you can be very good, but not necessarily elite.

Agree with everything except the better shooter part. I'd take bird every time. Every single time.

 

Check the stats.

Dirk is a very special player, his step back jumper is a thing of beauty. Statistics may be similar but I believe Bird was the more complete player. If I were at the park and had the second pick and Larry went first I wouldn't be all that upset landing Dirk. I wish Larry played during the age of the League Pass.

Question Clyde, you think Pippen is HOF without MJ?

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