MJAlltheWay24 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I can see a fine, but looking at things from this angle, he wasn't aggressive about it at all. Suspension would be over-the-top in my opinion. At the end of the day, I don't really care if he does or doesn't get a fine or suspension. But his excuse is so lame and weak. Just own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 IMO, yes. He shoved him. The fan did nothing to deserve the shove. A shove is a threatening action. Come on UKMF, you are blowing this way out of proportion. Take off the Cardinal hate glasses and look at this subjectively. That wasn't a shove. No he shouldn't have done it and should at minimum be fined. But to say the fan would have been in the right to punch Adams over it is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 At the end of the day, I don't really care if he does or doesn't get a fine or suspension. But his excuse is so lame and weak. Just own it. Agreed, like I said I'm disappointed he didn't own it. Just admit you lot your cool and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Come on UKMF, you are blowing this way out of proportion. Take off the Cardinal hate glasses and look at this subjectively. That wasn't a shove. No he shouldn't have done it and should at minimum be fined. But to say the fan would have been in the right to punch Adams over it is laughable. If he would've taken a swing no charges would've been filed against the fan. Does what Adams did deserve that reaction? No, but that doesn't change how it would be viewed in terms of the law, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 If he would've taken a swing no charges would've been filed against the fan. Does what Adams did deserve that reaction? No, but that doesn't change how it would be viewed in terms of the law, IMO. And you would be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And you would be wrong. In your opinion.... I'm using precedent. If you remember last year when Pac-Man was arrested for shoving/hitting a women at a bar, the judge said she was the instigator and his actions, while not smart, were self-defense, because she initiated physical contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTip Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I just saw the fan interviewed on Channel 5. He seems pretty likeable. Said Adams just tapped him and it was no big deal. He went on to say he wants to apologize to Adams and any fans he might have offended. Hopefully Adams finds a way to get in touch with the guy and chat...maybe send him a signed bat or something (though as a Reds fan he might just sell it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 In your opinion.... I'm using precedent. If you remember last year when Pac-Man was arrested for shoving/hitting a women at a bar, the judge said she was the instigator and his actions, while not smart, were self-defense, because she initiated physical contact. What exactly did that women do? What Adams did in no way would justify a punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Come on UKMF, you are blowing this way out of proportion. Take off the Cardinal hate glasses and look at this subjectively. That wasn't a shove. No he shouldn't have done it and should at minimum be fined. But to say the fan would have been in the right to punch Adams over it is laughable. If it wasn't a shove what shouldn't he have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Man, you Reds fans are a bunch of whiners. :no: :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Man, you Reds fans are a bunch of whiners. :no: :no: Now that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsrider Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 If it wasn't a shove what shouldn't he have done? I'll say this, it was as little a shove as could be done and still be considered a shove. It was a shoves 4th cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'll say this' date=' it was as little a shove as could be done and still be considered a shove. It was a shoves 4th cousin.[/quote'] It definitely wasn't the one handed shove Rolen used to man handle Carpenter 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dad Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Love the way the fan showed him the ball after he shoved him. And it was a shove, as light as it could be and still be called a shove, but it was a shove. A one game suspension and a $1,000 fine is about right. That fan should be comped some season tix for not throwing the ball at his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet16 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The play was over then he shoves the guy with his glove, you don't think it was a shove? The fan wasn't in his way and didn't even reach over him for the ball, just showed it too him and Adams pushes him away with his glove. Then fans flip him off. Adams has to know he can't touch a fan and especially can't initiate the contact after the baseball play was over. I don't call it a "shove". A shove would not knock him down. I said he deserved some kind of punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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