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Philip Seymour Hoffman Found Dead

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Drug addiction should be a Public Health Crisis in this country IMO.

 

Education is where it starts and we need to put more emphasis and money into educating our youth.

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We always blame pot as the drug that is the gateway but I think its turned into prescription pain meds that is the gateway to more serious drugs like heroin. And in many cases, this is why people in the middle or upper class are getting addicted in my opinion.

How can you say smoking pot didn't kill anyone in my example?!?!?!?!?!

 

POT IS WHY THEY ARE DEAD!!!!

 

So are you saying someone drunk and gets behind the wheel and kills someone because they were driving impaired but it's ok because alcohol had nothing to do with it?

 

Using your logic everyone at Sandy Hook, Columbine, Aurora, ect that are dead are so because of guns.

So if I am following the logic correctly, shouldn't iPhones, lipstick, etc. all be illegal was well.

HB, some people just don't "want" to get it.

 

Because it's a flawed logic.

So if I am following the logic correctly, shouldn't iPhones, lipstick, etc. all be illegal was well.

Wow. Ok, so now lipstick, iPhones etc are all Hallucinogens

 

 

Ok, let's really get ignorant on the subject. This is the main reason I try and stay out of this very subject when it comes to debating it. It's because of the mental midget comments that come with it.

 

Be upset at me, I don't care. It's a very close subject to me and idiotic and moronic statements that some always throw into the ring on this subject only show me 2 things....that those same people have taken too much drugs and their brain cells are so fried they can't think straight or they truly are stupid.

 

Now to be sure here folks, I am not calling anyone in particular stupid, don't want to break the rules here etc. I will just say, if the shoe fits blah blah blah.

 

 

Freakin cell phones. Omg.

HB, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on my comment:

 

We always blame pot as the drug that is the gateway but I think its turned into prescription pain meds that is the gateway to more serious drugs like heroin. And in many cases, this is why people in the middle or upper class are getting addicted in my opinion.
I'm with you guys.

 

Given your avatar, this is the ultimate irony.

HB, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on my comment:

Prescription drugs are a huge problem and I agree with you.

i don't think it's any one thing that is "The" gateway to other drugs. I simply believe it is whatever is available to the person is what the gateway is.

 

Some don't have easy access to pot, but do for prescription drugs, others it is the other way around. Even others use alcohol or even household products to get their high.

 

The bottomline is, what do all drugs including alcohol have in common? They all in one way or the other ulter the state you feel or the state of your mind etc. they make you feel good but why? One might make one feel invincible and another may simply make you feel calm, while another makes you hallucinate where you feel as if nothing can hurt you. All of them are used for the same reason, to alter the way you feel.

 

My point is and has always been, just because one drug isn't as lethal as others doesn't mean it should be ok to use.

This is a link to a related story. If it truly was a hoax ahead of his death then that there would be ironic. If this is saying that it's a hoax that there was a hoax then this article is hardly news worthy and just plain stupid.

 

It sorta twisted my head a bit when reading as I wasn't at first exactly sure what the heck they were saying. Now that I get it (I think), then I'm not even sure why they felt a need to report it.

 

I'm not even sure I'm making sense with what I saying, and perhaps you'll get it at first, or you'll be a bit confused at first just like I was.

 

Since I'm bracing you for confusion, then perhaps you won't be confused, or perhaps you'll just be more confused than you would've been if I hadn't said anything.

 

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Prescription drugs are a huge problem and I agree with you.

i don't think it's any one thing that is "The" gateway to other drugs. I simply believe it is whatever is available to the person is what the gateway is.

 

Some don't have easy access to pot, but do for prescription drugs, others it is the other way around. Even others use alcohol or even household products to get their high.

 

My point is and has always been, just because one drug isn't as lethal as others doesn't mean it should be ok to use.

 

Bottom line, addictive personalities will find anything to satisfy their "high". That's the scary part.

Wow. Ok, so now lipstick, iPhones etc are all Hallucinogens

 

 

Ok, let's really get ignorant on the subject. This is the main reason I try and stay out of this very subject when it comes to debating it. It's because of the mental midget comments that come with it.

 

Be upset at me, I don't care. It's a very close subject to me and idiotic and moronic statements that some always throw into the ring on this subject only show me 2 things....that those same people have taken too much drugs and their brain cells are so fried they can't think straight or they truly are stupid.

 

Now to be sure here folks, I am not calling anyone in particular stupid, don't want to break the rules here etc. I will just say, if the shoe fits blah blah blah.

 

 

Freakin cell phones. Omg.

 

 

HB, the point they're trying to make is this: That driver that walked away could just as well been a driver who drank too much alcohol, was distracted by texting or making a phone call, or putting on lipstick or shoot, even fiddling with the stero.

 

No one is advocating making heroin legal. But, ironically, the substance itself isn't to blame for the wreck. It was the poor decision made by the driver.

Bottom line, addictive personalities will find anything to satisfy their "high". That's the scary part.

That is scary and you are right.

HB, the point they're trying to make is this: That driver that walked away could just as well been a driver who drank too much alcohol, was distracted by texting or making a phone call, or putting on lipstick or shoot, even fiddling with the stero.

 

No one is advocating making heroin legal. But, ironically, the substance itself isn't to blame for the wreck. It was the poor decision made by the driver.

The point I am making is unlike the cell phone or the lipstick, the drugs directly contributed to the state of mind which impaired and slowed the drivers reflexes.

 

Lipstick didn't make the driver see blurred lanes in front of them etc. lipstick didn't lead the driver to drive 100mph when they thought they were only going 35mph. A cell phone didn't impair the motor skills needed to judge when to make that right turn.

 

That is my point.

 

To say cell phones are as much to blame as drugs for the fatal accident on highway 101 is like saying clothes are to blame for 9/11 because if the hijackers weren't wearing clothes that morning they would never of been allowed on the planes.

The point I am making is unlike the cell phone or the lipstick, the drugs directly contributed to the state of mind which impaired and slowed the drivers reflexes.

 

Lipstick didn't make the driver see blurred lanes in front of them etc. lipstick didn't lead the driver to drive 100mph when they thought they were only going 35mph. A cell phone didn't impair the motor skills needed to judge when to make that right turn.

 

That is my point.

 

To say cell phones are as much to blame as drugs for the fatal accident on highway 101 is like saying clothes are to blame for 9/11 because if the hijackers weren't wearing clothes that morning they would never of been allowed on the planes.

 

Well, I could go on and on rebutting your comments, but it's likely not to get anywhere.

 

I'd like to introduce you to the family of a girl who was killed by a texting driver who missed a curve. Or, to the parent of another girl who was the texting driver who hit a tree head on.

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