Sac factor isn't close with these three guys, IMO.

My point is that sometimes thinking in terms of who you want starting in big games is more important than the stats or the W-L record.

Sac factor isn't close with these three guys, IMO.

 

Homer wants the ball. I don't think he's quite the bulldog Latos is but I like Homer's makeup. He pouts when he makes mistakes too often, but I'd take him in a big post season game over Cueto 10fold.

Homer wants the ball. I don't think he's quite the bulldog Latos is but I like Homer's makeup. He pouts when he makes mistakes too often, but I'd take him in a big post season game over Cueto 10fold.

 

Agree. But Homer doesn't seem to have the mental makeup of Latos.

Depends on the match up but I'd go Cueto then Latos.

 

Same here, and I'd feel damn good about the fact that I (assuming he's still there) would have Bailey ready to go in game 3.

Agree. But Homer doesn't seem to have the mental makeup of Latos.

 

Can't find that in the baseball almanac.

Well yeah, there should be. You gotta take injury history in to consideration.

 

If all 3 are healthy, it's Cueto, Latos, Bailey, and the #'s pretty much support that.

 

No doubt about it Cueto is 1 if they are all healthy all year. Cueto for sure has more questions coming into the season.

 

Latos missing the WC start and having arm surgery sure does get glossed over by some Reds fans.

His numbers don't say he is 3rd. You know.....

 

Yeah they do. Cueto 2011-2012 had some of the best numbers in all of MLB.

Yeah they do. Cueto 2011-2012 had some of the best numbers in all of MLB.

And 2013? Or are we only selecting numbers now that fit our argument? Innings? What is the parameter of our analysis for this argument?

You would think with Latos having the seasons he has had with the Reds that they would be talking to him before Homer. If they sign Homer, maybe its a sign they believe they can keep both. I don't see how but its not my money. I personally would much rather break the bank for Latos then Bailey. My opinion is to sign Arroyo again and trade Bailey.

And 2013? Or are we only selecting numbers now that fit our argument? Innings? What is the parameter of our analysis for this argument?

 

You ignoring the parts where I asked who was the number 1 or where I said Cueto for sure has the most questions coming in? Just picking and choosing something to disagree with b/c it's me?

 

Seriously though why are there no concerns over the Latos injury? He had an arm issue bad enough that he couldn't pitch the WC game even though the rotation was set up for him. The arm required surgery too. Sure I think he will have the better year b/c he's more likely to be healthy but if they are both healthy I still think Cueto is better.

 

Are you arguing that Homer is better than Cueto?

You ignoring the parts where I asked who was the number 1 or where I said Cueto for sure has the most questions coming in? Just picking and choosing something to disagree with b/c it's me?

 

Seriously though why are there no concerns over the Latos injury? He had an arm issue bad enough that he couldn't pitch the WC game even though the rotation was set up for him. The arm required surgery too. Sure I think he will have the better year b/c he's more likely to be healthy but if they are both healthy I still think Cueto is better.

 

Are you arguing that Homer is better than Cueto?

No, but how do you rely on numbers so stringently and put Cueto up there with his injury history? By quoting '12 numbers? Come on, as much as you'd like to make the game black and white, you can't. As for the Homer better than Cueto question, if they're healthy, no chance. However, from a reliability standpoint, Homer is Walter Johnson in comparison.

Latos is a given as the one who gets a big contract when eligible.

 

Who is next? Cueto or Bailey? Perfectly healthy I lean Cueto. However, I have no way of convincing myself I'm going to get enough starts out of him to justify the contract.

No, but how do you rely on numbers so stringently and put Cueto up there with his injury history? By quoting '12 numbers? Come on, as much as you'd like to make the game black and white, you can't. As for the Homer better than Cueto question, if they're healthy, no chance. However, from a reliability standpoint, Homer is Walter Johnson in comparison.

 

We're not really saying Cueto has a history of injury problems right? Sure last year was a disaster but other than that he's made 24 starts one year and over 30 every other year he's been in the league. Bailey has only gone more than 24 in two years. Of course it was the last two and he seems capable of putting a streak together.

We're not really saying Cueto has a history of injury problems right? Sure last year was a disaster but other than that he's made 24 starts one year and over 30 every other year he's been in the league. Bailey has only gone more than 24 in two years. Of course it was the last two and he seems capable of putting a streak together.

I'm talking this season going forward. Maybe it's what have you done for me lately, but I'd rather rely on Homer to finish strong and give me innings and be ready in the post season than Cueto. The Tiant thing ain't workin'.