B-Ball-fan Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Cincinnati Police Officer Orlando Smith exceeded posted speed by 20 mph when he struck Natalie Cole, violating police policy - Hamilton County Story Cincinnati Police Officer strikes 36 year old woman pedestrian from Dayton, Ky while speeding over the limit through Over-The-Rhine in downtown Cincinnati tossing her 40 feet in the air. She is being treated at the University Hospital and is in critical condition. The cruiser camera malfunctioned right before impact and started working again 3 minutes after the crash. The officer has 6 past accidents while on duty where he was determined to be at fault for 5 of them.
Jumper_Dad Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 I've known some like that, they seem to have no concept of driving. One had something like 8 wrecks in 3 years, thankfully they moved on.
Jim Schue Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 I've known some like that, they seem to have no concept of driving. One had something like 8 wrecks in 3 years, thankfully they moved on. With driving being such a critical component of the job, if an officer shows himself/herself to be excessively accident-prone shouldn't that be a pretty solid grounds for dismissal? How much is the department having to pay to clean up after the mess in terms of vehicle repairs and lawsuits and medical bills, not to mention lost work time for the officer during investigations into the incident? And while I'm on the subject of insurance, how does that work? Does the municipality's premiums go up when hit with a big settlement? What kind of bill does the taxpayers get hit with?
TheDeuce Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Five at fault accidents and he still has a job? Why?
PigSkin Junkie Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 How convenient the cruiser cam "malfunctioned" right before the incident......
THUNDERBIRDS Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Five at fault accidents and he still has a job? Why? Agreed! Someone is certainly going to get paid for this one...IMO! I wonder if this guy finally loses his position(Job)?
THUNDERBIRDS Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 I've known some like that, they seem to have no concept of driving. One had something like 8 wrecks in 3 years, thankfully they moved on. Not a joking situation but I thought NasCar driving took skill.....8 wrecks in 3 years? Someone needed a desk job. The way the Cruisers are juiced up these days I would think of that like Assault with a "Deadly Weapon"...Wow!
AverageJoesGym Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 If it weren't for the 5 previous accidents that had been the officer's fault I'd be torn on this one. Yes, he was going more than 20 mph over the speed limit but he did have his lights and siren on and he was responding to a request to help another officer. In addition the pedestrian wasn't in a crosswalk. However, 5 previous incidents make me think this officer needs to not be in a cruiser anymore.
B-Ball-fan Posted November 12, 2013 Author Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) How convenient the cruiser cam "malfunctioned" right before the incident...... I suppose that the alleged camera malfunction is possible, but upon first hearing about that I'm guessing that a high percentage of people knee-jerkingly think "How Convenient" and "Cover up", and even if the malfunction is true, it's not exactly provable, and the officer and the whole department has to be looking pretty bad. This brings to mind the Castro freak in Cleveland where their police department has no record of the amount of calls to his property that the neighbors had claimed. Certainly the main focus was on his atrocity, but if the neighbors are honest, and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be, that atrocity could've been stamped out long before it was. I realize that the job of a police officer is rough, but their departments should be held accountable to the law and the truth just as us ordinary citizens are. We pay them to protect us, not to be our enemy and abuse their authority and have a system in place that shades us from the realities of their misguided or unlawful activities. They are hired to protect and enforce the law. That does not give them the right to be above the law. I realize that not all officers think that they are, but as soon as an officer shows repetitive behavior that indicates that he/she thinks that they are, they need to be let go immediately. Edited November 12, 2013 by B-Ball-fan
Theoldguy Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 Follow up story from the Ky Post...puts a different light on this accident! Link
Jumper_Dad Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 With driving being such a critical component of the job, if an officer shows himself/herself to be excessively accident-prone shouldn't that be a pretty solid grounds for dismissal? How much is the department having to pay to clean up after the mess in terms of vehicle repairs and lawsuits and medical bills, not to mention lost work time for the officer during investigations into the incident? And while I'm on the subject of insurance, how does that work? Does the municipality's premiums go up when hit with a big settlement? What kind of bill does the taxpayers get hit with? Blanket policy for the department not sure but would assume that insurance went up with claims. The officer that I'm speaking of as far as I know only damaged her own vehicle in those wrecks, so there weren't a lot of settlements or outside claims. But yes we as taxpayers end up footing the bill one way or another either in higher premiums or in large settlements in cases where there is litigation from an accident. I checked and it seems like it was more like 6 accidents in 3 years or so...still WAY too MANY! I read somewhere once that garbage trucks have more claims against them in some cities than other municipal vehicles, they sure aren't driving fast.
B-Ball-fan Posted November 13, 2013 Author Posted November 13, 2013 Follow up story from the Ky Post...puts a different light on this accident! Link Wow... I'm speechless. Not sure what I can say. That's got to be a hard thing for a mother to say as she watches her daughter in the hospital struggling to live. Her mother knows that her daughter was already struggling to live before the accident. I can't begin to know what it's like for a parent to watch their child go down the tubes on heroin. It feels radical for her mother to say that, but I suppose that I can see her hoping that this incident ultimately scares her straight if she is fortunate enough to survive this.
75center Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 Follow up story from the Ky Post...puts a different light on this accident! Link Sure does.
Hellbird Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 Follow up story from the Ky Post...puts a different light on this accident! Link The only new light it puts on is that the mother was tired of her daughter's actions. Still doesn't make what the officer did right. He should be fired. If she dies I hope he is brought up on manslaughter charges. If it was a civilian driving 20 mph over you know they would be brought up on charges.
Theoldguy Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 The only new light it puts on is that the mother was tired of her daughter's actions. Still doesn't make what the officer did right. He should be fired. If she dies I hope he is brought up on manslaughter charges. If it was a civilian driving 20 mph over you know they would be brought up on charges. Lets see the officer had his lights on, siren on, she was stone cold high on heroin, she crossed the street but not in a crosswalk. Yes, even a civilian would get a speeding ticket and nothing else!
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