You've never been in a meth house, I'm guessing. I guarantee you wouldn't want to live next to one if you had seen one. Not only is it filthy...and by filthy I mean inside and our.

 

It also stinks of chemicals mixed with filth. Oh, and there's always the chance these idiots will screw something up when they try to cook while they are high...and they will blow something up.

 

You are okay living next to that?

 

Of course I haven't been in a meth house. What normal person (outside of law enforcement) has?

 

And as long as they aren't infringing on my freedoms, they can do whatever the hell they want as far as I'm concerned.

Of course I haven't been in a meth house. What normal person (outside of law enforcement) has? And as long as they aren't infringing on my freedoms' date=' they can do whatever the hell they want as far as I'm concerned.[/quote']

 

Social workers, people in real estate, landlords, potential buyers of real estate, people who have to clean them up...

 

My point is that it will have a negative impact on your life. You act like its going to be a clean streamlined process once it's all legalized and I don't believe that. I don't think you have a clue as to what you would have to deal with if you suddenly had a meth house next door.

 

With that said, respond if you want but I'm gonna bow out here in this thread. I think I've contributed too much in getting us off topic.

To be fair, a meth lab next to my home would be illegal one would think, even if all drugs were legal. If you're talking a legal meth lab if all drugs were legal, I would expect zoning laws would prevent that.

All it takes is one example of a meth house next door and all these libertarian views of open drug laws go up in smoke. Zoning laws? Really?

Well, I suppose some could take your statement and say "Why are we paying 100K to families? The soldier was doing his job. If an accountant gets killed while working, does his firm pay his family for travel?"

 

The equivocation here is somewhat shocking. 'Jobs' do not require you sign away your life, literally, as service in the military does. Soldiering (includes all branches) is a 24 x 7 role. It is not a 9-to-5 'job'. Soldiers must sign that they will obey all orders - including those that risk their own mortality. They must obey orders that may even knowingly lead to their death by those issuing the orders. And they do this willingly. They must endure conditions no other 'job' would have. I believe that their ordinary life insurance is null-and-void as 'acts of war' are usually excluded. So they can not simply take out a standard life insurance to take care of the their families because of their 'job'.

 

But technically, to answer the question of 'would a company pay for xxxxxx for an employee who died on the job.? The answer is - most do. Most companies pay extra insurance for employees killed or who die on the job. At least most do if you are traveling on company business. So yes, the family of the accountant who dies traveling from city to city to do their 'job' probably would get additional monies over and above their own personal life insurance in most cases.

 

Sadly, US military members are still dying in undeclared wars. It is well under reported and mostly swept under the political rug. But the ultimate sacrifice is being paid every week - still.

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All it takes is one example of a meth house next door and all these libertarian views of open drug laws go up in smoke. Zoning laws? Really?

Why? And Yes, really. Come on, you think if meth became legal some Walter White wannabe would legally be allowed to set up shop next to my or your house? Really? As if there would be no zoning laws or guidelines? No regulations? Seriously?

Why? And Yes, really. Come on, you think if meth became legal some Walter White wannabe would legally be allowed to set up shop next to my or your house? Really? As if there would be no zoning laws or guidelines? No regulations? Seriously?

What's the best way to tackle illegal meth operations? (A) Drug strike task force or (B) Zoning laws? Maybe we could get a mod to set up a poll. Sometimes I just bang my head against the wall in disbelief.

What's the best way to tackle illegal meth operations? (A) Drug strike task force or (B) Zoning laws? Maybe we could get a mod to set up a poll. Sometimes I just bang my head against the wall in disbelief.

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be legal. However, what do you think would happen to these garage chemists if it were legal and manufactured by a company by people who new what they were dong for a cheaper price? I'd guess that these guys would lose their clientele pretty quick. Plus if you could buy cheaper then you could make it what would be the point.

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be legal. However, what do you think would happen to these garage chemists if it were legal and manufactured by a company by people who new what they were dong for a cheaper price? I'd guess that these guys would lose their clientele pretty quick. Plus if you could buy cheaper then you could make it what would be the point.

Just what we need -- more meth heads walking around the commonwealth without any teeth.

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be legal. However' date=' what do you think would happen to these garage chemists if it were legal and manufactured by a company by people who new what they were dong for a cheaper price? I'd guess that these guys would lose their clientele pretty quick. Plus if you could buy cheaper then you could make it what would be the point.[/quote']

 

Meth is pretty cheap to make right now.

I believe in personal responsibility its that simple. The government doesn't need to protect me from my own actions. If I fail to make the right decision I only have myself to blame.

I just want to clarify because it's been bugging me. To make the comparison RM was making from my statement it would assume people volunteering to defend our country made a bad decision. Which I don't see how any reasonable person could believe.

What's the best way to tackle illegal meth operations? (A) Drug strike task force or (B) Zoning laws? Maybe we could get a mod to set up a poll. Sometimes I just bang my head against the wall in disbelief.

I think you've banged your head against a wall all too often. I said legal and (like any good little liberal would) you change what I say to illegal. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

I think you've banged your head against a wall all too often. I said legal and (like any good little liberal would) you change what I say to illegal. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

Thanks for making my case. Legal meth is far scarier than illegal meth. You want to sell "legal meth" next to the aspirin at Wal-Mart?!

Meth is pretty cheap to make right now.

And your expertise in this field is ?

I think you've banged your head against a wall all too often. I said legal and (like any good little liberal would) you change what I say to illegal. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation.

You really want to see legal Meth !?