October 4, 201312 yr Perhaps the players realize they need somebody like a Lou Piniella that is going to be on their tails constantly to achieve their goals as a team. Why do you need someone to be on your tail constantly when you are a pro making millions of dollars? If you need that type of push maybe you should be let go instead of the manager.
October 4, 201312 yr Perhaps the players realize they need somebody like a Lou Piniella that is going to be on their tails constantly to achieve their goals as a team. Then they need a new gig. You're a professional making more money than the manager. It's your job!
October 4, 201312 yr And I have no clue what they talked about. It may have been a birthday dinner but they were together. So Chapman and LaRussa just them two had dinner togther?
October 4, 201312 yr So Chapman and LaRussa just them two had dinner togther? I thought he said it was Jocketty, LaRussa, and Chapman....:idunno:
October 4, 201312 yr Why do you need someone to be on your tail constantly when you are a pro making millions of dollars? If you need that type of push maybe you should be let go instead of the manager. Then they need a new gig. You're a professional making more money than the manager. It's your job! And obviously they need pushed to do their jobs. If they didn't, Dusty would still be manager.
October 4, 201312 yr The players should be ashamed of themselves. He was one year from retiring on a real positive note and they took that from him. Could have done that last year.
October 4, 201312 yr I thought he said it was Jocketty, LaRussa, and Bob....:idunno: Gotcha, so Bob and Walt are including Chapman in the decision making process? I HIGHLY doubt that.
October 4, 201312 yr Then they need a new gig. You're a professional making more money than the manager. It's your job! While we are totally on the same page about that here's the deal. Dusty is considered a players manager. He gives them the rope and they didn't play as hard as they should. He loves BP and BP goes out there ripping the ownership and his contract. The organization seemingly wanted Chapman to start and Dusty was totally against it. At some point the lazy attitude and saying you don't need a sense of urgency comes back on the manager.
October 4, 201312 yr Gotcha, so Bob and Walt are including Chapman in the decision making process? I HIGHLY doubt that. Or telling him that they want him to start next year and if he's not good with that they will try to move him.
October 4, 201312 yr Or telling him that they want him to start next year and if he's not good with that they will try to move him. That actually was my first thought.
October 4, 201312 yr While we are totally on the same page about that here's the deal. Dusty is considered a players manager. He gives them the rope and they didn't play as hard as they should. He loves BP and BP goes out there ripping the ownership and his contract. The organization seemingly wanted Chapman to start and Dusty was totally against it. At some point the lazy attitude and saying you don't need a sense of urgency comes back on the manager. I thought Walt was against Chapman starting too. That was mentioned a few times on here. I'm with you, if they were 18 year olds. I just don't get it. Does your boss need to motivate you for a big project or meeting? Scapegoat.
October 4, 201312 yr Or telling him that they want him to start next year and if he's not good with that they will try to move him. Possibly but that seems like it could be easily accomplished with a phone call considering they haven't even hired the guy yet.
October 4, 201312 yr I tend to think Bob and Walt aren't the type that would fire Dusty without a very clear gameplan, if not another manager already waiting. :idunno:
October 4, 201312 yr I tend to think Bob and Walt aren't the type that would fire Dusty without a very clear gameplan, if not another manager already waiting. :idunno: Agree! Bryan Price.
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