As a person who had to be involved in the Ky Gaming Commission when it first became legal to operate gaming in Ky (I co-chaired our Parish Bingo) you bet you had to have a license for any game of chance and that includes just plain old split the pots and even the smallest raffle. If you run a game of chance, you need a license!

 

I knew a Catholic would know the answer!

 

I just deal every year in the Blackjack tent. So have heard 'the speech' on following the rules or risk the license at that level.

I don't think this will be KHSAA's authority. The "Redbook" is the "bible" of Kentucky school Finance. It will be monitored by Finance Directors and Auditors.

 

Correct

I always wondered if the reward system that some athletic suppliers use is really legal and ethical. Coaches build up points based upon total dollar purchases that they can later redeem for whatever they want.

So, the KHSAA essentially has nothing to do with it then?

So, the KHSAA essentially has nothing to do with it then?

 

Correct, just like they have nothing to do with gaming.

The points system is not legal from my understanding.

I was always a booster member, and helped raise money for the teams. I have never fully understood how the schools appropriate money form different places.

 

Our booster club always provided coaching shirts and shorts or uniforms for our coaches.

 

What happens to the gate money from sporting events. IMO this should pay for players & coaches uniforms and equipment.

You're missing the point about paying for coaches trips. State and National coaches clinics cannot be reimbursed out of athletic accounts. THAT is the #1 issue. Ridiculous.

Does the school pay for continuing education, workshops, etc for "regular" teachers?

Does the school pay for continuing education, workshops, etc for "regular" teachers?

 

The district can pay for it out of their account. Just not money raised by that particular team. I presume continuing education and training is paid for by the district and not out of the English department's account.

 

Good luck getting a school district to reimburse a coach for an athletic expense.

The district can pay for it out of their account. Just not money raised by that particular team. I presume continuing education and training is paid for by the district and not out of the English department's account.

 

Good luck getting a school district to reimburse a coach for an athletic expense.

 

OK, quick scenario and question. If I have a golf scramble as a fundraiser for my program, where does the oversight come from? And who determines how it's spent? Can the coaches not have an external account for expenses above and beyond the budget for their sport? Is this where the redbook junk comes in?

OK, quick scenario and question. If I have a golf scramble as a fundraiser for my program, where does the oversight come from? And who determines how it's spent? Can the coaches not have an external account for expenses above and beyond the budget for their sport? Is this where the redbook junk comes in?

 

All funds from the golf scramble can go into the program running the outing's account. Of course, they also pay all expenses, as well. The coaches oversee all aspects of that fundraiser. All fundraising must gain prior approval from the Principal. When you request approval, you also declare what you will spend the funds on. If you ask to run a golf outing to pay for a trip to Orlando, those funds get ear marked for that trip.

 

External "Booster" accounts are allowed. They offer positives and negatives compared to accounts housed at the school. The main difference is, money raised by the students/student-athletes must be maintained in the school account. Your example of a golf scramble, which is predominantly run by coaches and parents, can be deposited into the external Booster account or that particular program's account.. However, a car wash must go into the program's account at the school. Of course, there is quite a bit of auditing by the school of all external accounts...and rightfully so.

 

Redbook has always existed. Here's an example of a change. The portion of Redbook for Booster accounts went from about 2 paragraphs to more than 3 pages.

 

Edit: *Redbook has not always existed. I can't remember the name of the old system used but Redbook is basically those rules but expanded.

All funds from the golf scramble can go into the program running the outing's account. Of course, they also pay all expenses, as well. The coaches oversee all aspects of that fundraiser. All fundraising must gain prior approval from the Principal. When you request approval, you also declare what you will spend the funds on. If you ask to run a golf outing to pay for a trip to Orlando, those funds get ear marked for that trip.

 

External "Booster" accounts are allowed. They offer positives and negatives compared to accounts housed at the school. The main difference is, money raised by the students/student-athletes must be maintained in the school account. Your example of a golf scramble, which is predominantly run by coaches and parents, can be deposited into the external Booster account or that particular program's account.. However, a car wash must go into the program's account at the school. Of course, there is quite a bit of auditing by the school of all external accounts...and rightfully so.

 

Redbook has always existed. Here's an example of a change. The portion of Redbook for Booster accounts went from about 2 paragraphs to more than 3 pages.

 

Now it makes more sense. So, that's why "diamond clubs" or "quarterback clubs" or "hardwood clubs" exist and now redbook has more oversight. Am I getting it more clearly?

 

Is this an advantage for privates?

Now it makes more sense. So, that's why "diamond clubs" or "quarterback clubs" or "hardwood clubs" exist and now redbook has more oversight. Am I getting it more clearly?

 

Is this an advantage for privates?

 

Correct. They are looking to avoid situations where Booster money is being incorrectly used for coaches or booster members. Like everything else they went overboard. For example, coaches gear cannot be purchased through the school account unless it's part of the uniform. I'm not a big proponent of buying all kinds of shoes, pants, shorts, sweats, coats, hats...etc for coaches but it's ridiculous with the amount of volunteers you have to ask them to buy a pair of shoes to match the other coaches. "Thanks for your 200+ hours of volunteer service, $1,000's in fuel costs from driving all over the region and countless hours away from your family...now I need $65 for coaches shoes."

 

I'm not sure how this impacts private schools. I guess if they still use the same method of accounting then yes.

Correct. They are looking to avoid situations where Booster money is being incorrectly used for coaches or booster members. Like everything else they went overboard. For example, coaches gear cannot be purchased through the school account unless it's part of the uniform. I'm not a big proponent of buying all kinds of shoes, pants, shorts, sweats, coats, hats...etc for coaches but it's ridiculous with the amount of volunteers you have to ask them to buy a pair of shoes to match the other coaches. "Thanks for your 200+ hours of volunteer service, $1,000's in fuel costs from driving all over the region and countless hours away from your family...now I need $65 for coaches shoes.

 

I'm not sure how this impacts private schools. I guess if they still use the same method of accounting then yes.

Totally agree.