August 8, 201313 yr Author You want me to name another business that pays skittles for a billion dollar operation? Ok, just about any government company. Let's just start with the military. Something that a lot of people dismiss is the fact that Universities also make a lot of money outside the athletic department. They make it off of brillant students discovering new scietnific discoveries etc. They make it off students working on medical breakthroughs etc. Athletcis isn't the only money maker for these universities, should we start paying these genius students who bring in money as well as the notoriety the universities gain? Athletes who think they are deserving to get paid by the university will open a huge can of worms. Now with that said, I have no problem with having money put away for the athletes by companies using their likeness etc. to sell their goods, and athletes getting the money after they leave the university due to graduation or going into the business world wether it be professional sports or anything else before graduation. EA sports for instance should give money to each and every school they use their representation of and when an athlete leaves the school they get a check for whatever it is for using their likeness. All of the money would have to be distributed evenly, Star players couldn't/shouldn't be played more than the other players.
August 8, 201313 yr You want me to name another business that pays skittles for a billion dollar operation? Ok, just about any government company. Let's just start with the military. Let us not pretend the Universities are out an arm and a leg to offer a scholarship. They just are not collecting a tuition check. It is not an equal ratio comparing Government pay to Scholarship pay. Something that a lot of people dismiss is the fact that Universities also make a lot of money outside the athletic department. They make it off of brillant students discovering new scietnific discoveries etc. They make it off students working on medical breakthroughs etc. Athletcis isn't the only money maker for these universities, should we start paying these genius students who bring in money as well as the notoriety the universities gain? Few things. A lot of brilliant students come to a school based upon the exposure received from athletics, not just their academics. You can't buy the exposure sports bring to a University, no matter how much the .edu folks dislike that. People come back for Homecoming games, not Quick Recall meets. But to answer your question, if a person wants to pay some Mensa student $100,000 to attend Duke, nothing is prohibiting them from doing that are they, or am I missing something? The NCAA does not allow it. If the Mensa student wants to get a job at the local Chemistry shop splitting molecules and collects $20,000 a week, he can do that. The NCAA does not allow it.
August 8, 201313 yr All of the money would have to be distributed evenly, Star players couldn't/shouldn't be played more than the other players. I agree. Every single player that is portrayed for instance in a PS3 game or xbox game etc. would get the same amount. The only time a player would get more was if it was an individual item made of that player or even using his name or number such as a teddy bear wearing a Texas A&M jersey with Johnny Football's number on it or name etc.
August 8, 201313 yr Let us not pretend the Universities are out an arm and a leg to offer a scholarship. They just are not collecting a tuition check. It is not an equal ratio comparing Government pay to Scholarship pay. Few things. A lot of brilliant students come to a school based upon the exposure received from athletics, not just their academics. You can't buy the exposure sports bring to a University, no matter how much the .edu folks dislike that. People come back for Homecoming games, not Quick Recall meets. But to answer your question, if a person wants to pay some Mensa student $100,000 to attend Duke, nothing is prohibiting them from doing that are they, or am I missing something? The NCAA does not allow it. If the Mensa student wants to get a job at the local Chemistry shop splitting molecules and collects $20,000 a week, he can do that. The NCAA does not allow it. I would argue that academic students who want to excel in their area, more times than not choose the university for it's academics rather than how their team performs. If cost doesn't matter (you can afford any school in the country) and you want to study Astro Physics and you had your choice of MIT or U of L, that student if accepted to both universities would choose MIT more times than not. IF you were a Law Student and had the choice of a Harvard Law Degree or a University of Kentucky Law Degree, I would bet more students would choose Harvard. Yes Athletics bring in a lot of money to the universities, but to be honest, with the number of Universities in the country, only a handfull make a substantial amount of money off their athletics when all is said and done when they have to also support other sports which they lose money on etc.
August 8, 201313 yr It's as simple as paying them a small percentage of what their particular sport brings in to the University. How much money does a full ride academic, non-athletic student bring into the University, other than the money they spend to attend the events if they even have to pay for that. Pay the players!
August 8, 201313 yr Author It's as simple as paying them a small percentage of what their particular sport brings in to the University. How much money does a full ride academic, non-athletic student bring into the University, other than the money they spend to attend the events if they even have to pay for that. Pay the players! So top recruiting class would go to the team with the best marketing depart that is able to bring in the most money. Texas used to be #1 in revenue every year in football, why would a kid pick Arkansas when his money from the revenue would be drastically less than if he went to Texas. Paying only revenue producing sports athletes would never fly with Title IX
August 8, 201313 yr It's as simple as paying them a small percentage of what their particular sport brings in to the University. How much money does a full ride academic, non-athletic student bring into the University, other than the money they spend to attend the events if they even have to pay for that. Pay the players! The players are getting paid, some in the 6 figure range to cover the cost if their education.
August 8, 201313 yr I don't think they should be paid by the school. I would like to see the hand cuffs lifted a bit so they can earn some money. Don't really know what that would look like. Maybe something where you could earn up to $1000 a month.
August 8, 201313 yr FWIW, it's posted in the College Basketball forum but the NCAA is going to stop selling jerseys.
August 8, 201313 yr Here are the problems as I see it: When the NCAA "amateurism" concept was designed, marketing and exposure was about 1/1000th of what it is today. You are using an antiquated system in today's ever-changing landscape. It does not work. Room and board, education, or other perks these guys receive, pales in comparison to how much Universities and the NCAA make off of them. It is exploitation. Name one other business that can get away with paying skittles for a billion dollar + operation? Why are "student-athletes" prohibited when any other student on campus with a talent, say a musician, is allowed to profit?. Yes, quite a few D1 football programs make a pretty good profit, even though it is ridiculously expensive to field a top level football team. However, a good portion of these profits go to fund other sports and programs at those schools. And really, once you get outside of the major college programs, those smaller D1 schools (and none of the D2-D3) schools are really making big money. And only a small percentage, and probably a very tiny percentage of D1 athletes are high enough profile to sell jersey's to generate significant income. The stud player from Sam Houston State (just making up an example) isn't earning a ton of money for his school. You've got maybe a dozen guys in college football that can generate huge jersey sales. And as i said earlier, if you pay the football team, you gotta pay the women's field hockey team and every other athlete. Ask any parent that is footing the bill for a kid in college how expensive it is, and how fortunate they would be to have a kid who had a full ride. How'd you like to have free gym access, free travel across the country a few times a year to play in a game, free food, free doctors, free trainers, free housing (with no utilities to pay) and a chance to be seen on national TV, plus a free education and opportunity to develop marketable skills that can lead to a career, not to mention the connections and networking opportunities for 4 years?? How much extra do you need to get paid. You mention exploitation.....how is it exploitation when the athlete gets so much in return?? The full ride long snapper is being exploited?? No way. Quite a few of these would never have gotten an opportunity to go school without the full ride...
August 8, 201313 yr Author FWIW, it's posted in the College Basketball forum but the NCAA is going to stop selling jerseys.But I'm guessing the schools can still sell them.
August 8, 201313 yr But I'm guessing the schools can still sell them. Yes they can. They just talked about this subject on OTL and the schools can still sell them. Actually only a very little % of jerseys are sold on the NCAA site, most are sold through the school itself and rightfully so. After all it's the school that is paying for the scholarship, not the NCAA.
August 9, 201313 yr UK costs $10,500 per semester for non residents. That's $21,000 per year. There's 85 scholarship players on D1 team. If all players were non resident, that's almost $1.8MM per year in just tuition. Obviously some players are resident so their cost is half. This is just football.
August 9, 201313 yr So let a player pay his own tuition, books, board, etc. Then he could work, sign autographs, make commercials. The star athletes would make much more in income than school fees. And an athlete is not taking someone's else spot at the university. The cost to a university is minimal for a student athlete.
August 9, 201313 yr Author So let a player pay his own tuition, books, board, etc. Then he could work, sign autographs, make commercials. The star athletes would make much more in income than school fees. And an athlete is not taking someone's else spot at the university. The cost to a university is minimal for a student athlete. You'd still be back to bidding for recruits with job offers and autograph opportunities..."You come to State U and we can guarantee that you will sell 10,000 more autographs than Down State Tech can"
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