August 9, 201313 yr I hear both sides of the argument. I still get back to it being an antiquated system. There is a reason we are one of the few countries in the world that has a collegiate system that acts as a minor league. The whole concept is kind of dumb when you think about it. 100 percent agree. Using college that way is profoundly dumb. It's nice if you're the NBA or the NFL and you've been able to use it as a wall to any and all competition from other leagues that now can't get off the ground.
August 9, 201313 yr Author No, I didn't. I wasn't good enough. I didn't win a genetic lottery, tough luck for me. Yet, I'm the only one defending this? Why, bc it seems that everyone is saying either A. it's always been done this way and changing it will totally kill the system (it won't), or B. it's not fair b/c I didn't get the same opportunity to go to college for free, so that's all that these guys should get (if you are top 5% of sales in your company, your perks will be much different than the girl in HR. That's just the way the world works.) How much money does UK basketball bring in annually? Who are the workers? Should they not be able to earn some of that beyond their crap stipend? I don't get how people are ok w/ telling kids that, and only because, they have an athletic scholarship, that they shouldn't make as much as their value dictates they make. How does that compromise, or change, anything? All it does is top the Academics and Administrators from making a complete killing. Vast majority of NCAA schools don't bring in the money that UK or most other BCS schools do. How would Murray St have enough money to pay every athlete in every sport male and female?
August 9, 201313 yr Author I think this is the beginning of the end for the NCAA as it is now. I think what Coach Cal suggested a year or so ago is going to happen. I believe BCS conferences will break away from the NCAA and set their own rules for recruiting, paying players etc... Non-BCS conferences and schools would basically be locked out of the big $$$ associated with college athletics at that point. They would probably continue under what is currently the NCAA.
August 9, 201313 yr When I was at Hanover, I couldn't have given my autograph away. If people are willing to pay players to sign their own names and their own jerseys selling at the bookstore, they should be able to profit. Their abilities put them into that position. They are more then welcome to sell their autograph or jersey. They just can't do it and stay eligible. Their abilities put them into a position to get a free education. For the ones that are lucky enough to go on to the pros, playing in college gives them that opportunity. Let's not act like college football players get nothing out of this.
August 9, 201313 yr You still have scholarship restrictions. TCU would hardly be impacted. Kids aren't choosing TCU over Texas right now. OK, let's look at an example closer to home. Louisville has really put itself on the map the last couple of years. If they have to bid for the services of a Bridgewater against the big boys their success probably doesn't happen.
August 9, 201313 yr Vast majority of NCAA schools don't bring in the money that UK or most other BCS schools do. How would Murray St have enough money to pay every athlete in every sport male and female? I know. That is my point. It is market value. You are not paying the athletes a salary. You are paying them their value. They get what they can get through autographs and memorabilia. A guy like Fareed at Morehead would have earned a good year's revenue while his teammates wouldn't have. Welcome to capitalism.
August 10, 201313 yr Author I know. That is my point. It is market value. You are not paying the athletes a salary. You are paying them their value. They get what they can get through autographs and memorabilia. A guy like Fareed at Morehead would have earned a good year's revenue while his teammates wouldn't have. Welcome to capitalism. But then you have boosters promising recruits that they will buy XXX number of autographs for $$$$. Recruiting which isn't the highest moral activity to begin with would be horrible under that plan.
August 10, 201313 yr OK, let's look at an example closer to home. Louisville has really put itself on the map the last couple of years. If they have to bid for the services of a Bridgewater against the big boys their success probably doesn't happen. The Louisville athletic department is printing money right now. They'd be even better off under an unregulated system...
August 10, 201313 yr Author The Louisville athletic department is printing money right now. They'd be even better off under an unregulated system... Maybe they could institute a college salary cap :lol2:
August 10, 201313 yr ..........The Miscellaneous Expense Allowance that nearly went into effect two years ago will pass at some point in one way or the other. In its original state it was a Title IX nightmare because it only went to full scholarship / aid students and due to FB there are far more boys like that than girls. It won't be a no-holds-barred money tree, but it will serve to split the haves and have nots and will be the basis for creating the new Division 4. Of the 347ish D1 schools playing hoops, of which about 119 play FBS Football, the number that will be able to play at that level will be small. The MEA will be the piece that ultimately change athletics in colleges as we know it. In my opinion, not for the better.
August 10, 201313 yr And they don't bring in near the money that football and basketball players do. You get paid what you are worth. I don't get why everyone is opposed to people making as much money as they can, while they can. Why? Because other students can't? Tough luck, man. Music majors are allowed to get paid for gigs while they are in school, athletes don't... Is that a "tough luck, man" situation too?
August 10, 201313 yr Author Guys the reason all of this is even an issue is because of dirty recruiting over the last 75 years. In a perfect world players could have a side job or a way to earn extra money on their own. But we all know that this would turn into a bidding war that in no way would be fair for competition for about 90% of schools. If kids get paid it needs to be the same amount for all athletes at all schools.
August 10, 201313 yr The Louisville athletic department is printing money right now. They'd be even better off under an unregulated system... Not even close to amount generated by the top programs.
August 10, 201313 yr Author Music majors are allowed to get paid for gigs while they are in school, athletes don't... Is that a "tough luck, man" situation too? If that music major was also a 6'9'' power forward with guard skills I bet he could get booked every weekend in about 50 college towns across the country making a lot more per gig than the non-power forward music major.
August 10, 201313 yr Not even close to amount generated by the top programs. Might want to check your facts there. UL is on par with all but 5 or 6 programs in the country, and are going to get a huge boost next year with the ACC cash influx. UL isn't Texas, OSU, Bama, Michigan or Florida but they will be right at the top of the list of the next group for a long time...
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