3 of 4 wide receivers return along with the best QB in the state. Every highschool in America has players they have to replace. Conner runs a spread offense which takes the pressure off of the line anyways with read options and 3 step drops. Conner (under Trosper) has never been a 3 yards and dust team with an overpowering offensive line and they always do well offensively. I would not read too much into the Scott game if I were you. Fogle is obviously a huge loss but Conner was fine offensively before him and will be fine after. If I had a concern with this team it would be on the other side of the ball....

 

How many games las year did the Barker/Fogle combo score the vast majority of the points? Pretty much all of them. Hell, in the South Oldham game Fogle scored 6 TDs and Barker had the rest. Granted they gave up a ridiculous amount of points, and lost. But when 1 player has 6 of your touchdowns and another has the rest, that's telling me not many others stepped up that night.

 

I love how words always get twisted around on this site. I never said Conner was screwed because Fogle graduated. All I said is that the others are going to have to step up in a big way. There are some returning skill players in Way, Loney, who is coming back from season ending knee surgery last year, and Jessie Mckeehan will return however he is very injury prone.

 

They lost their TE, the majority of their line, a top 3 skill player in the state. Plain and simple Drew Barker is going to need help, and its yet to be determined if he's going To get it. That's all I was saying.

 

May I ask why I shouldn't reference the Scott game from last year. The team Conner fielded that night is just about what they will have this year. Give or take a few players.

 

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How many games las year did the Barker/Fogle combo score the vast majority of the points? Pretty much all of them. Hell, in the South Oldham game Fogle scored 6 TDs and Barker had the rest. Granted they gave up a ridiculous amount of points, and lost. But when 1 player has 6 of your touchdowns and another has the rest, that's telling me not many others stepped up that night.

 

I love how words always get twisted around on this site. I never said Conner was screwed because Fogle graduated. All I said is that the others are going to have to step up in a big way. There are some returning skill players in Way, Loney, who is coming back from season ending knee surgery last year, and Jessie Mckeehan will return however he is very injury prone.

 

They lost their TE, the majority of their line, a top 3 skill player in the state. Plain and simple Drew Barker is going to need help, and its yet to be determined if he's going To get it. That's all I was saying.

 

May I ask why I shouldn't reference the Scott game from last year. The team Conner fielded that night is just about what they will have this year. Give or take a few players.

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Fine, let us play your Scott game out.

1) Lets first take under consideration that all offseason Conner built their offense and practiced their offense built around Cameron. It's not easy for one week to suddenly change your offensive gameplan. But that's no excuse for a bad game.... HOWEVER......

2) Against Scott, Conner had over 500 yards of total offense and their 4th highest regular season scoring output. In comparison, Cooper had over 300 yards of total offense and their 2nd highest regular season scoring output. South Oldham had over 500 yards of total offense and their 3rd highest regular season scoring output. Seems rather even to me offensively.

 

Basically to say that kids will have to step up is kind of obvious; what high school doesn't lose a talented senior? Offensively no Conner fan should be worried. Giving up 32 points to Scott is the problem, but to say Drew was by himself on offense is frankly just inaccurate.

 

Fine, let us play your Scott game out.

1) Lets first take under consideration that all offseason Conner built their offense and practiced their offense built around Cameron. It's not easy for one week to suddenly change your offensive gameplan. But that's no excuse for a bad game.... HOWEVER......

2) Against Scott, Conner had over 500 yards of total offense and their 4th highest regular season scoring output. In comparison, Cooper had over 300 yards of total offense and their 2nd highest regular season scoring output. South Oldham had over 500 yards of total offense and their 3rd highest regular season scoring output. Seems rather even to me offensively.

 

Basically to say that kids will have to step up is kind of obvious; what high school doesn't lose a talented senior? Offensively no Conner fan should be worried. Giving up 32 points to Scott is the problem, but to say Drew was by himself on offense is frankly just inaccurate.

 

Agree I disagree. We'll see how the season goes.

 

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How about this thread stays on the 2013 version of the Cougars? Last year has zero bearing on this season.

How about this thread stays on the 2013 version of the Cougars? Last year has zero bearing on this season.

 

Explain how the players lost from last season, and discussing those who are to replace them THIS season has "zero bearing" on the 2013 team?

 

That is the point of this thread buddy.

 

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The one challenge in looking at last year's players is you don't know how much bigger, stronger, faster, better they've gotten. Replacing starters is a)always a concern and b)always part of high school football. Conner doesn't need a great line. They need a good line. This offense can work around the deficiencies.

 

As always with Conner it's simply going to come down to defense.

 

Explain how the players lost from last season, and discussing those who are to replace them THIS season has "zero bearing" on the 2013 team?

 

That is the point of this thread buddy.

 

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It has Zero Bearing because exactly zero of last years seniors are on this team. This thread is about this year not last year buddy. Let it go. Please.

The one challenge in looking at last year's players is you don't know how much bigger, stronger, faster, better they've gotten. Replacing starters is a)always a concern and b)always part of high school football. Conner doesn't need a great line. They need a good line. This offense can work around the deficiencies.

 

As always with Conner it's simply going to come down to defense.

 

Spot on Clyde. I believe their defense will be much improved. Lots of talent at the LB spots and secondary. You will be hearing lots about a kid named Ryan Romey. Flat out stud who will be an impact player on both sides of the ball.

 

It has Zero Bearing because exactly zero of last years seniors are on this team. This thread is about this year not last year buddy. Let it go. Please.

 

So, let me get this straight... You don't want to discuss how the loss of key players from last year is going to effect this years team? Don't want to discuss some players that are going to fill those voids? Things that can be done, or need to be done to improve from last season? Very confusing my friend. Again, if I'm not mistaken, that is the point of this thread.

 

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Fogle loss is huge but every other skill player returns so that should help.

 

Is Padgett back at WR? I thought he was a senior. He was their #2 receiver last season, right?

 

Is Padgett back at WR? I thought he was a senior. He was their #2 receiver last season, right?

 

He was the TE. And yes he graduated.

 

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It would seem that Conner lost a lot of options and productivity with graduation of Fogle and 90+% of the offensive line. If the current lineman can step up and give Drew and Co time, the offensive should be fine. Defensively is where the Cougars struggle. Even last year you cannot score 50 points a game and lose. That's crazy and hopefully will be addressed. Hammer, chill out. You will be able to see Cameron and Drew again on the field very soon. BBN

It would seem that Conner lost a lot of options and productivity with graduation of Fogle and 90+% of the offensive line. If the current lineman can step up and give Drew and Co time' date=' the offensive should be fine. Defensively is where the Cougars struggle. Even last year you cannot score 50 points a game and lose. That's crazy and hopefully will be addressed. Hammer, chill out. You will be able to see Cameron and Drew again on the field very soon. BBN[/quote']

 

Not real sure why I need to chill out... Enlighten me?

 

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Fogle loss is huge but every other skill player returns so that should help.

 

Is Padgett back at WR? I thought he was a senior. He was their #2 receiver last season, right?

 

 

Duh, on my part. Yes Padget graduated he played TE. I had slots/wr and rb's on my mind.

I think folks will be shocked to see how much production this year's Conner team will get from J. McKeehan and A. Way. Both will have big years. Loney also coming along fine after successful knee surgery. Make no mistake, this team will have weapons at multiple positions. Conner also participating in numerous 7o7's. This will help with QB/Receiver timing in a big way. Gonna be a fun year in Hebron.