Were you not blasting others for hypothetical statements?? Hey pot....said the kettle.

 

I'm offering real stories with real people. Not what if she's 12 and he's 18. Every story I have posted on here is a factual story.

Could be that you are prejiduce towards this girls parents due to their beliefs that differ from yours.

 

What are my beliefs? That 17/18 year olds can have a consensual sexual relationship with a 14/15 year old?

The girl's parents are mad their daughter is gay and taking it out on the older girl.

 

As long as our kids follow our rules then they are allowed to do as they please. You break the rules you suffer the consequences. Period. The only one who has dated is still with his first girlfriend.

 

Which leads to this...

 

Her mom's wishes have been known by our family and their family. We'll be at her daughter's graduation tonight, she'll be traveling to Myrtle Beach with us in a week and she'll be attending the same college as my son in the fall.

 

The 18 year old girl broke the rules and she's suffering the consequences, period. The same standard you place on your own kids.

 

Whether the rule is good or not is not germane to the discussion. Are you 100% certain that the rules you set for your kids are all "good"?

 

As for your last paragraph, with all due respect something in the way you worded it made it seem to me that you are going to the graduation and taking the girl to Myrtle Beach just to spite the mother and to throw it in her face as much as your are because you care about the girl. If I'm incorrect about that I'm sorry.

I could probably live with that change as well, but I do think you have to be careful since kids can legally be in highschool until age 21. So I do think a numerical age has to be put on the top end. a 21 year old is too old for a 14 year old freshman.

 

That, we all agree on.

I'm going to make one more analogy that can be poo-pooed but I believe it.

 

Think of the 18 year old as a big time college basketball coach (this is a sports themed board after all :thumb: ). When things are going good that coach can and will take 100% of the credit but when things go bad that same coach will throw everyone he/she can under the bus and put the blame squarely on them.

 

An 18 year old is perfectly happy to accept all of the rights and privileges that come with their new adulthood but if also just as happy to fall back on the "I'm still just a kid" excuse when they make a mistake especially when they have adults that agree with them and follow that same line of reasoning.

 

Don't throw out your shoulder w/ that reach.

The 18 year old girl broke the rules and she's suffering the consequences, period. The same standard you place on your own kids.

 

Whether the rule is good or not is not germane to the discussion. Are you 100% certain that the rules you set for your kids are all "good"?

 

 

Nope. I'm sure there are plenty who would disagree with the rules I set forth for my kids.

 

I wouldn't manipulate the rules/law to punish someone else's kid for something they did with my kid. That's my whole point and take into what is happening in this situation. I can't find any reason at all to side with these parents in question when it is quite clear what is going on here.

Ok lets say your beloved son....who has been hedero sexual all his life..... attracted to girls as far as you know, enters the 9th grade and meets a very charismatic, manipulative, gay 18 year old...lets say this man has a reputation for turning, younger boys into his new Bo..... you as an adult can see the way this kid works...how he turns and manipulates your son, who now is wearing make up, and tighter pants, and has been sexting this 18 year old....... You have talked with your son but he is blinded by his new found love and can not see what your telling him.... You talked and warned the older boy, and he likes to rub in your face what he and your son have no matter what you say.... Do you think that is fine now??? Even though deep down in your heart and your wifes heart, that you know your son is unsure about his sexuality and needs more time to make a responsible deciscion.... Or do you pursue your rights within the law?? Do you risk fighting or threatening the boy, and go to jail yourself??

 

 

Same question asked if you had a daughter and the older boy is 18 already has two other girls pregnant, does drugs, and even sells them, drives really fast and wreckless, and takes your daughter to older parties where there is open sex, drugs, and other illegal activity. He has snuck your daughter out of the house and talked her into skipping school her grades are falling... she was an honor roll student... she is 14 him 18, so you as a parent should not be able to have a a say or a right????

Ok lets say your beloved son....who has been hedero sexual all his life..... attracted to girls as far as you know, enters the 9th grade and meets a very charismatic, manipulative, gay 18 year old...lets say this man has a reputation for turning, younger boys into his new Bo..... you as an adult can see the way this kid works...how he turns and manipulates your son, who now is wearing make up, and tighter pants, and has been sexting this 18 year old....... You have talked with your son but he is blinded by his new found love and can not see what your telling him.... You talked and warned the older boy, and he likes to rub in your face what he and your son have no matter what you say.... Do you think that is fine now??? Even though deep down in your heart and your wifes heart, that you know your son is unsure about his sexuality and needs more time to make a responsible deciscion.... Or do you pursue your rights within the law?? Do you risk fighting or threatening the boy, and go to jail yourself??

 

 

Is the kid in high school and a classmate?

 

 

For the record, I've already told my youngest son(13 years old) I'll love him and support him whether he's gay or straight.

Is the kid in high school and a classmate?

 

 

For the record, I've already told my youngest son(13 years old) I'll love him and support him whether he's gay or straight.

 

 

Added to my post, I am with you dont care if my kids are gay or not but if I felt at age 14 they weren't really sure, I would excercise any right to protect them from bad deciscions and manipulation of others...

Added to my post, I am with you dont care if my kids are gay or not but if I felt at age 14 they weren't really sure, I would excercise any right to protect them from bad deciscions and manipulation of others...

 

 

Nothing wrong with that. My concern this whole thread has been about the manipulation of the law.

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Ok lets say your beloved son....who has been hedero sexual all his life..... attracted to girls as far as you know, enters the 9th grade and meets a very charismatic, manipulative, gay 18 year old...lets say this man has a reputation for turning, younger boys into his new Bo..... you as an adult can see the way this kid works...how he turns and manipulates your son, who now is wearing make up, and tighter pants, and has been sexting this 18 year old....... You have talked with your son but he is blinded by his new found love and can not see what your telling him.... You talked and warned the older boy, and he likes to rub in your face what he and your son have no matter what you say.... Do you think that is fine now??? Even though deep down in your heart and your wifes heart, that you know your son is unsure about his sexuality and needs more time to make a responsible deciscion.... Or do you pursue your rights within the law?? Do you risk fighting or threatening the boy, and go to jail yourself??

 

 

Same question asked if you had a daughter and the older boy is 18 already has two other girls pregnant, does drugs, and even sells them, drives really fast and wreckless, and takes your daughter to older parties where there is open sex, drugs, and other illegal activity. He has snuck your daughter out of the house and talked her into skipping school her grades are falling... she was an honor roll student... she is 14 him 18, so you as a parent should not be able to have a a say or a right????

 

Absolutely, but my beef would be with my daughter. Not those who would seem to be corrupting her. I'm not going to call the cops on the kids my daughter keeps hanging around after she has been told not to. That's on my daughter.

Yea like I said I see what your saying, we are probably not too different... But I would be a law loving son of a gun, if this came to my door step, just being honest..

Yea like I said I see what your saying, we are probably not too different... But I would be a law loving son of a gun, if this came to my door step, just being honest..

 

 

I feel you. I don't think you'd manipulate the law like I feel these folks are doing. I saw someone else say it best...."The law is meant to protect teens from sexual predators and the like, not prosecute high school classmates in a relationship."

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